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On a regular basis Warrior Podcast Episode 18: Dr. Kirk Parsley


Males’s Journal’s On a regular basis Warrior With Mike Sarraille is a brand new podcast that evokes people to stay extra fulfilling lives by having conversations with disrupters and excessive performers in all walks of life. In our eighteenth episode, we spoke to Dr. Kirk Parsley, M.D. a retired Navy SEAL and efficiency enhancement doctor who focuses on sleep, wellness, and hormonal optimization.  Take heed to the total episode above (scroll down for the transcript) and see extra from this sequence beneath.

This interview has not been edited for size or readability.


Mike Sarraille:

Welcome to the Males’s Journal On a regular basis Warrior podcast. Excited to have you ever, excited to speak about not solely your life, however the way you affect a whole lot of your purchasers and assist them to stay an optimum life of their thirties, forties, fifties, and past, which turns into an more and more essential factor as we age. I wanna dive in just a little to your background for the listeners, get into your life story, particularly the truth that you didn’t graduate from highschool. I’m simply gonna zone in on this one… turned a Navy SEAL. After which I simply don’t perceive how highschool dropout was chosen by the Navy to turn out to be a premier physician.

Kirk Parsley

Plenty of guilt And disgrace twisted into me. So, yeah, so I went to all 4 years of highschool. Um, however I used to be rather more fascinated with, um, ladies and vehicles and sports activities and preventing and so forth. Um, so didn’t, apply myself. You may say, I, I really began getting DS and Fs in third grade. Um, so a suboptimal house life I’ll depart it there. And, so faculty was sort of my escape. It was sort of the one time I bought to be away from house. And so I spent all my power, you already know, doing the enjoyable stuff, not, not likely working in class. And, on the finish of 4 years I had sufficient credit to be a sophomore. And, um, I wasn’t gonna stick round in any case my pals graduated, however none of my pals knew I wasn’t graduating.

They simply, you already know, everyone went their approach. Everyone went to school and I went and bought a G E D and went to the Navy, really joined, in December earlier than I graduated. So, December of 87 and, they’d simply launched a documentary about seals, they’d coated a Bud’s class. And so they saved saying how this was the hardest coaching on the planet. And, Crimins, you already know, how Crimins was just like the star of it and the powerful fishermen from new England man. Proper. And, so I used to be like, nicely, that is the hardest coaching. I’m gonna go try this. So, um, you already know, I, I, I used to be a very good athlete as a very good energy athlete. Strengthen pace sucked at endurance. So budge was not the simplest expertise for me, clearly. Um, however, yeah, I, I made a decision I need to go do the hardest coaching I may do.

I signed up, took the F they only began the dive honest program. So I used to be assured a shot to go if I handed the take a look at and bud and, bootcamp, um, didn’t even know the Navy was gonna pay me. And that’s how naive I used to be. I simply thought they’re gonna gimme garments. They’re gonna gimme a spot to stay. They’re gonna feed me. Then I’m both gonna be coaching for battle or in battle. So what the hell do I would like cash for? Proper. Um, and, yeah, went, went into the seal staff throughout the Hollywood days, clearly, like we, you already know, we had the objective for, you already know, the place three bullets had been shot, you already know, so we didn’t have something actual, did a whole lot of what they name match. Now, you already know, they touring abroad, coaching different, organizations, after which, you already know, simply coaching journey after coaching journey, identical factor again and again sort of on a treadmill.

And I used to be like, I’m gonna go, I’m gonna go take a look at one thing else, go do one thing else. knew I’d should go to school, needed to begin in junior school. You possibly can’t get into school with no highschool diploma. So, went to junior school, began working at San Diego sports activities medication heart. cuz I assumed I used to be gonna be a bodily therapist and um, you must volunteer like 2000 hours to get into PT faculty. So I’m doing my doing my volunteer hours determined I didn’t actually need to be a PT. Um, had each sort of healthcare practitioner on the planet at this clinic. So I bought to know everyone. After which, the docs there as a result of I’d been a SEAL. after which I used to be like, in my second yr of school, these guys had been solely like three years older than me.

Just like the younger docs. And so they’re like, it’s best to go be a health care provider. And I used to be like, pump, you already know, pump the brake sports activities, proper? Like I didn’t graduate highschool. I’m not gonna, I’m not gonna be a health care provider. And the proprietor of the clinic, a health care provider named Lee rice who nonetheless practices out in San Diego, right here’s over right here’s the dialog comes out into the hallway and says, Kirk, the query isn’t are you able to get into medical faculty? The query is, would you need to go, should you may get into medical faculty? And I mentioned, in fact I’d need to go. He mentioned, nicely then what do you, what’s the query? And I’m like, all proper. So he sort of modified me into it. You’re like, yeah, I’d like to be a health care provider, however I don’t assume I might be. So he’s like, nicely you gotta strive.

So, went via school, set the curve in each class, bought a 4.0 GPA all via, when he got here time to use for medical faculty. I discovered the navy had their very own medical faculty, which I, I didn’t know. however I used to be already married, already had a child discovered. They’d pay me to go to medical faculty as an alternative of the opposite approach round. Um, after which in fact, you already know, the navy, every part they educated you for, you repay with time. So I needed to be a health care provider for them for eight years. And so I simply mentioned, nicely, I’m certain I’ll have the ability to get again to the groups and go get again to the group and I’ll go do sports activities medication, ortho, one thing like that. I’m nicely fitted to cuz you already know, being a at my age and being an athlete and a SEAL, like the one factor I knew about medication was accidents.

Kirk Parsley
Proper? Like that, that’s what I assumed a health care provider did, you already know, like they fastened your shoulder, your elbow, your knee, like, and yeah.

So clearly, you already know, as you mentioned, I, I, bought via medical faculty, did a residency in hyperbaric and underneath sea medication in order that I may go work with divers. And so they despatched me to this coverage job with submarine rescue for like two years. After which I bought to go to the SEAL groups after which I spent my final 4 years within the navy on the SEAL groups and destroyed my profession there, serving to the fellows however doing the correct factor. And and so there, there was no future for me after that job. And so I, I bought out at 19 years.

Mike Sarraille (06:32):
<laughs> While you say destroyed your profession, you imply you pissed individuals off?

Kirk Parsley (06:35):
Yeah. I pissed off everyone within the medical sphere.

Mike Sarraille (06:38):
As a result of they had been most likely incorrect.

Kirk Parsley (06:40):
Nicely as a result of, they educated me as a health care provider to diagnose and deal with illness and none of our brothers had ailments. They’d efficiency points. And so I used to be, I needed to be taught a ton of integrative and purposeful various medication. I needed to find out about so much about diet and dietary supplements and hormones and like all like all of the stuff that will intrude with efficiency. Um, and one of many issues that I discovered was, you already know, our guys, I don’t know if, if the east coast was the identical approach, however the west coast, about 85% of the staff was taking Ambien each night time. Like that was handed out like M&Ms, a standard factor. They thought it was an inconsequential jug, simply take this and also you’ll sleep. And so all these guys got here to me with these issues of like low motivation shifts of physique composition, moodiness, brief consideration span.

Kirk Parsley (07:34):
And it wasn’t illness. No one had a illness, however no one was performing the best way they needed it to carry out. And after I realized sufficient about sleep, I mentioned, oh, sleep could possibly be a giant element of this. So let’s get everyone off of sleep medicine. And after I did that, like 85% of the individuals removed 90% of their issues simply by the sleep. And I used to be like, oh my gosh. So that is greater than I assumed it was. After which, you already know, after which that simply, that simply segued into me studying an increasing number of about efficiency medication as a result of that, that, you already know, however you already know, the navy, they bought pissed off that I used to be giving individuals, Myer Stockdales, which is an IV of nutritional vitamins. Apparently that’s past my scope as a health care provider, I wasn’t allowed to do this. And you already know, I used to be giving individuals like, aromatase inhibitors to decrease their estrogens of their testosterone would come again up and I wasn’t allowed to do this. And I saved getting investigated and shut down. And

Mike Sarraille (08:29):
That doesn’t shock me with the navy. No, very closeminded and don’t step exterior of their lane.

Kirk Parsley (08:36):
knew they weren’t gonna let me give these guys hormones, though their hormones had been within the tank. and the identical one I labored with NFL guys, like I labored with NFL linemen who they’re within the regular vary by like one level like 250 to 1100, they’re 251. They’ll’t take hormones both. So the seals had been the identical approach. I knew it as a result of, and, and that is smart, proper? Cuz in, Admiral’s gonna be on CNN explaining why all of the seals are on steroids, should you give ’em hormones. Proper. So I knew I couldn’t try this. So I had to determine, nicely, how do I optimize hormones? How do I optimize efficiency? How do I get these individuals’s physique comps to shift? You realize? And we had a nutritionist, however they had been doing very customary dietary stuff for the final inhabitants, not civilian.

Kirk Parsley (09:21):
A nutritionist got here from a D-1 faculty labored with athletes, nevertheless it nonetheless is like, it is a completely different animal, proper? Like we’ve a unique, you already know, you consider the, the healthcare suppliers that get to work with groups, they’ve a bonus as a result of that’s a sport and there’s a schedule and there’s an off season and there’s downtime and, and every part’s calculated identical to if you’re a seal, when are you gonna sleep? Like when is your on season? When do you could have, when do you must be on all of the freaking die daily if you gonna sleep, each time you may. How usually is that gonna be? Who is aware of? Such as you won’t get to sleep this week. You realize, chances are you’ll not get a full night time sleep for the subsequent two weeks. Um, and so I needed to work inside this very restricted scope. You, nicely, you already know, with our, you already know, inside our group scope, it was completely different. And so whereas the individuals we employed, you already know, we introduced from the Olympic coaching heart from skilled sports activities groups, they’re working with athletes, which being a particular forces man is an athletic endeavor to make sure, however you don’t get a subject with like traces drawn on it. And so many minutes of play and so many min prefer it doesn’t work like that and

Mike Sarraille (10:30):
You don’t get blown up.

Kirk Parsley (10:31):
Yeah. And also you don’t get blown up and also you don’t watch your buddies get blown up and also you don’t should work three days in a row as a result of schedules bought screwed and also you don’t get to sleep for 3 days and nonetheless you gotta go do the da anyway, though you’re hallucinating already, you already know? in order that, that, that was the kind of the setting that I discovered myself in, which was completely different than some other healthcare supplier. I, it was, I used to be at an, in a fantastic house in that, you already know, seals had already killed Ben Laden and you already know, like that they had this fame. Proper, proper. They’d this, this nationwide notoriety. So I may name up any physician. I may learn a, you already know, learn a health care provider’s e-book, pay attention, you already know, take heed to him on a podcast, see his lecture, take heed to, oh, sees Ted speak or no matter.

Kirk Parsley (115):
And I may say, Hey, I, I realized about you right here. I feel what you do may be relevant to my guys. I’m the, I’m the physician for the west coast seal groups. Would you permit me to coach with you? Would you mentor me? Would you coach me? Would you let me to, would you seek the advice of on sufferers with me? And so they’d be like, hell yeah. Each time. Hell yeah. Nicely, yeah. I’d like to. Um, and so I bought, I imply, I had an unfair benefit. I, I bought to be taught most likely 10 years value of stuff in two years.

Mike Sarraille (142):
Le now let’s step again with, with the particular operations group, particularly the, the seal command was most likely supportive of what you had been doing. It was the standard standard navy medical providers that had been

Kirk Parsley (153):
Nicely. So the, so battle comp has a pressure medical officer, um, who’s my boss technically. After which even like, even on the group, I had a senior medical officer above me who, was really a doctor’s assistant as a result of the navy does loopy stuff like that. and he instructed me day one, he’s like, Hey, you already know, since you’re sporting that Trident, individuals are gonna anticipate particular therapy. And I used to be like, yeah. And I’m gonna give it to him as a result of they’re sporting the Trident. Prefer it’s a part of the identify. Proper. Particular warfare. Like they bought like, I’m a seal there seal in fact. Yeah, in fact I went and he’s like, no, you may’t try this. And I’m like, nicely, that’s what I’m gonna do. Um, and they also, they actually suspended my privileges many occasions investigated me, you already know, tried to restrict what I may do. And um, you already know, I simply saved pushing issues decrease and decrease beneath the radar, however by no means, by no means stopped.

Mike Sarraille (12:59):
Not, not shocking, no. With, with the navy. No. I imply, let’s be sincere. They need you to be decisive. They need you to have a bias for motion, however the second you’re outta line, proper. Or, or your aperture is simply too open to proper. Different methods of doing enterprise. Yeah. They they’re, they’re gonna crash you. And,

Kirk Parsley (13:11):
And so some senior doctor, you already know, division head on the Navy hospital would hear

Mike Sarraille (13:17):
What you’re doing,

Kirk Parsley (13:18):
What, what I’m doing, as a result of she’s seeing considered one of my sufferers and be like, what the hell he, they usually name pressure medical and be like, oh, over again. Nicely, what’s, what’s this man doing now. and now it’s like, what I do 1000’s of docs do now, however nobody was doing it again then.

Mike Sarraille (13:33):
So let let’s again up. Now you’ve made a reputation for your self, each throughout the particular operations group and the civilian sector. Yeah. Close to sleep, you’ve turn out to be one of many nationwide consultants on sleep. You’ve even written a e-book known as sleep to win how Navy seals and different excessive performers keep on high.

Kirk Parsley (13:51):
Proper.

Mike Sarraille (13:53):
What was it that made you dial in on sleep if you had been all these seals, these, these athletes affected by a scarcity of efficiency. Yeah. And what’s it about sleep that you simply contemplate to be the gateway to optimum

Kirk Parsley (14:09):
Well being? Proper. So, a very powerful half to know about that is the distinction between catabolic and anabolic. So catabolic is if you’re taking huge complicated issues and also you’re breaking them down into small, easy issues. So for instance, if I’m in famine and I haven’t eaten for 3 days and my cells want amino acids, my physique will eat by muscle and switch my muscle into amino acids in order that my different cells can get the amino as they want. So I can keep alive. That’s catabolic stress hormones are catabolic. The upper degree of stress you’re in. While you’re in struggle or flight, you’re 100% catabolic, anabolic, actual reverse. What you consider with anabolic steroids, you’re taking amino acids and constructing muscle groups out of them, proper? You’re taking small, small, easy issues and constructing huge complicated issues. So probably the most anabolic time in your life.

Kirk Parsley (15:03):
And in reality, actually the one anabolic time in your life is deep sleep. So if you’re in deep sleep, you could have nearly no stress hormones. It’s the bottom or stress hormones will ever be. And it’s the place about 95% of your entire anabolic hormones are secreted. And when these seals got here to me with their issues, I didn’t have the slightest thought easy methods to repair it. I’m like I’ve no, like I bought nothing like nothing. I do not know. So I simply began testing every part I may. And their anabolic hormones had been horrible. Their testosterone was low, their free testosterone was low. Their, I, you already know, progress hormone was low. IGF. One is the marketplace for that. The place’s low. Their estrogen was actually excessive. You realize, their insulin sensitivity was actually low. And though their ripped they usually’re in good condition they usually appear like they need to be on it’re inflammatory markers, which is catabolic.

Kirk Parsley (15:49):
Proper. Um, all of these are actually excessive. So I needed to repair their hormones. However once more, I knew I couldn’t simply give them, I couldn’t give ’em hormones. I knew I, even when I give ’em thyroid, it might disqualify ’em. So all of them, nearly all of ’em had thyroid issues. So I’m like, nicely, what could possibly be the factor? So then after I realized what really occurs throughout sleep, the primary 4 hours of sleep, like that’s your anabolic time. So if you’re figuring out, you’re getting weaker, proper? You’re damaging your muscle groups. While you fall asleep, your physique ramps up anabolic exercise, and it makes that muscle stronger. In order that tomorrow it might probably carry the burden. You tried to carry in the present day and also you couldn’t. So as soon as I realized that and I realized, nicely, that’s the place all of the hormones are secreted. After which I realized that the sleep medicine intrude with that allow’s get ’em off of sleep medicine, bought them sleeping.

Kirk Parsley (16:36):
And as soon as they began sleeping and do away with the sleep medicine, testosterone, tripled, quadrupled, quintuple, I had, I had guys getting PRS at 45 years outdated, the CEO of silting 5, ship me his exercise log. He’s like, I, I PR in six lifts at 45 years outdated strongest, I’ve been my complete life. And I used to be like, oh, that is greater than like, I needed to present him hormones. However I knew that the sleep would assist just a little. I didn’t understand that it might be so huge. And now the extra I find out about sleep, each single factor that you simply care about occurs if you sleep something you wanna get higher at. It occurs if you’re sleep, you don’t get higher in any respect. In the course of the day you be taught issues. You don’t actually be taught them till you sleep on ’em you train. You don’t profit from that till you get well from it.

Mike Sarraille (17:22):
Let, let me ask you this. So should you, should you needed to put a share on the quantity of issues that went away, as soon as their sleep was again to, to, to optimum circumstances. Yeah. What would that share be?

Kirk Parsley (17:35):
80%. You’re

Mike Sarraille (17:37):
Kidding

Kirk Parsley (17:37):
Me. 80%. And I assure you 90% of what remained 90% of that, of that 20% was from TVs, which I didn’t work out.

Mike Sarraille (17:49):
The TBIs are

Kirk Parsley (17:50):
The traumatic mind accidents from the over strain price. You realize, all of the blast accidents our guys had. I didn’t determine that out till most likely two years into it. So about midway via my time working, I spotted how essential the TBIs was as a result of the mind is what units all of your hormones. So when your mind’s broken and infected, it doesn’t stability your hormones. Proper? And also you, each, every part about your efficiency is hormones.

Mike Sarraille (18:16):
So seal or not your, your, your, your common civilian lets put it that approach as you age, it looks like sleep issues turn out to be extra prevalent. Sure. I imply, even now I’m sporting a, a embarrassingly, a, C P a P machine when, after I sleep. So what can your common individual do when it comes to both? I do know I’ve heard it known as sleep hygiene. What can they do to, to, to optimize their, their sleep? And I do know this factor proper right here. Yeah. And, and even I’ve heard, TV within the bed room is the worst factor you are able to do.

Kirk Parsley (18:56):
Nicely, it’s not very best. I wouldn’t say it’s the worst factor, nevertheless it’s, it’s a, it’s a not very best factor. so principally a very powerful factor is to persuade your self that sleep’s a very powerful factor. When you get there, it’ll be very easy to learn to sleep nicely. Um, the issue is our society doesn’t worth sleep, proper? Like we go, we go, you consider our group. We go per week with out sleep and coaching simply authorised to us. We don’t really want sleep. I feel, proper. Clearly we’d like sleep, you already know, and entrepreneurs and C degree executives. And like all these individuals who actually get after it, all of them consider that sleep is for the week that you simply’re lazy should you’re sleeping. So the very first thing is to persuade your self that sleep’s a very powerful factor. You are able to do that very simply by going to Google scholar or PubMed and sort in sleep.

Kirk Parsley (19:42):
And anything you care about. Sleep in muscle. When sleep in parenting, sleep in temper, sleep in cognition, sleep in. I don’t care. Something you care about. Begin studying the science. You’ll be horrified. When you’re scared to loss of life, I’m like, oh my God, I must sleep. Now. You’re prepared. Sleep hygiene can be a fancy phrase for a bedtime routine. Bear in mind when, when you could have little children, there’s a bedtime routine takes about 45 minutes to an hour to get a child prepared for mattress. We have to prepare for mattress too. We don’t give ourselves that point. So our ancestors, often the solar because the cues, when to sleep, when the solar went down, the blue mild went away. That triggered the chemical modifications in our mind to make us sleepy about three hours later. After which three hours later, we might really feel like going to sleep.

Kirk Parsley (20:27):
After which we’d get up proper across the time the solar comes up. And that seems to be proper round eight hours. And so you consider it. Our ancestors take into consideration a thousand years in the past, the solar went down. What would you do? You’d again into your cave. Possibly construct just a little hearth. You’re very weak. You possibly can’t see at night time, proper? Any sort of predator may get you. You’re gonna, you’re tuck your self away. You’re gonna have a hearth to sort of push back different animals. Now you now you actually can’t see something. There’s not gonna be a whole lot of exercise. The solar went down, the air’s gonna get cooler. You’re gonna get cooler. So all that sleep hygiene is, is taking the blue mild out of your eyes, lowering the quantity that you simply’re interacting with the setting. If you happen to, you may put on the blue blocking glasses, all you need to, however exit to a nightclub with music, Blain and you already know, engaging individuals of the alternative or no matter your choice is.

Mike Sarraille (215):
I like the way you caught your self there. You realize what I’m saying? Together with his girlfriend sitting within the viewers, you

Kirk Parsley (220):
Can do all the, you are able to do all that stuff and you may push your self to the place you’re not sleepy since you’re interacting with the setting. So lower the blue mild, lower your interplay with the setting, together with your laptop. So simply since you’re sporting blue blocking glasses, doesn’t imply you may work on a anxious work undertaking till 9 59 and get in mattress at 10 o’clock and be like, why am I not asleep in quarter-hour? It doesn’t work that approach. So lower your interplay with the setting, together with stress, after which decrease your physique temperature. These three issues are 100% of sleep hygiene. Now you’ll see that damaged right into a thousand completely different behaviors and methods and do that and try this. However that’s what every part is for.

Mike Sarraille (257):
I, I do know there’s dad and mom listening which have toddlers they usually’re like, yeah, this, it is a pipe dream. Thanks buddy. Proper? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the one recommendation I I may give to them is get your children on a, a sleep schedule,

Kirk Parsley (22:08):
Get your children to sleep nicely. And in case your children are problematic sleepers, no one likes to listen to this, however considered one of you must get well. So that you’re gonna should take turns with coping with the youngsters. And like one individual will get to place in earplugs and eye masks and go down within the basement and crank up the AC and get 10 hours of sleep and get well. After which the subsequent night time they’re on responsibility and you turn, however that’s the one solution to get well. The quicker you get well, the much less harm you do.

Mike Sarraille (22:35):
Let, let me ask you this. Does physiology play into genetics, play into sure individuals’s sleep in what I’m pondering of? And also you most likely know the place I’m going. This there there’s guys like JAA wiling who can keep up until 12 if touring on the street, however nonetheless will get up at 4 30 and appears to function at a, a excessive diploma. Proper. I, I, I can’t function that, that, that approach. I imply, given I I’ve, I had much more fight deployments, much more bangs and booms. Proper. But it surely does. Does physiology and gen play.

Kirk Parsley (23:04):
Yeah. So it’s like anything, proper? Like we aren’t, we aren’t all equal. Proper. That’s why the Olympics exist. No, no one’s gonna pay to observe me. And also you run 100 meters, proper. As a result of we’re not, we’re not these individuals. Proper. So everyone has genetic items and that, so there’s, there’s no, there, there’s no proof that anyone on the planet is perfect with lower than eight hours of sleep. However there may be proof that sure gen genotypes individuals, sure gene profiles undergo much less, however there’s, it’s nonetheless not very best. They might nonetheless be very best with eight hours. So if Joco slept eight hours each night time, he could be higher Joco than he’s. However he simply doesn’t undergo as a lot as perhaps no,

Mike Sarraille (23:44):
You and I might. So he doesn’t undergo a bigger date radiation as, as you or I might with, he’s undoubtedly a, a beast. Um, we’re, we’re going to kind of roll right into a, a mid, break right here. And, and earlier than we take a primary break, man, I wanna ask you a number of exhausting questions, which is what we do right here on the, the on a regular basis warrior. We’re gonna ask you to get just a little vulnerability as a result of as you already know, and I preach this in a whole lot of my, my speeches is you may’t have a wholesome tradition until you could have vulnerability. Proper? And amongst probably the most elite warriors I’ve ever seen, they had been variety, they had been empathetic they usually didn’t worry being weak with their fellow males. So first one is hardest choice Kirk Parsley’s ever needed to make.

Kirk Parsley (24:27):
Um, truthfully that will most likely be whether or not or to not break up. After I had young children. That was actual. That was, that was, took me a few years to make that call. That was powerful. however on matter, the subsequent hardest factor could be was I gonna preserve doing every part that I wasn’t allowed to do for our guys and presumably lose my medical license and all that different stuff, you already know?

Mike Sarraille (24:55):
In order that’s, that’s the toughest factor you needed to face. Yeah. Is navy punishment

Kirk Parsley (25:00):
Doing all your job imply? Nicely, I imply, cuz that will’ve been my entire life like that. I, if I might’ve misplaced my license within the medical faculty, that, or within the navy that will’ve adopted me within the civilian sector,

Mike Sarraille (25:08):
You’ll’ve been performed,

Kirk Parsley (25:09):
I’d be engaged on Harleys or digging ditches proper now. I wouldn’t be a health care provider. You

Mike Sarraille (25:13):
You’d be fairly good ditch Digger.

Kirk Parsley (25:15):
I feel so. Yeah. Like

Mike Sarraille (25:16):
I, I imply, take a look at you, dude. You’re beast.

Kirk Parsley (25:18):
Yeah. I, I bought, I bought good arms for them.

Mike Sarraille (25:21):
You, you already know what I gotta say about human efficiency docs is I’m at all times fearful. It’s it’s very similar to a coach, proper? Like at a gymnasium who who’s bought just a little little bit of a stomach hanging over there. yeah. Their belt, like, ah, what’s your {qualifications}. Yeah. Do you reside with credibility?

Kirk Parsley (25:36):
Yeah. And there’s different guys who’ve much more than just a little little bit of a stomach. Yeah.

Mike Sarraille (25:39):
<chortle> final query. Earlier than we take this, this break, the toughest remorse

Kirk Parsley (25:45):
You reside with the toughest remorse.

Mike Sarraille (25:47):
No regrets,

Kirk Parsley (25:49):
No, no regrets. Um, man, you already know, I might,

Kirk Parsley (25:59):
I imply, it, it’s a silly remorse and I’ve really expressed it to a man out right here within the viewers earlier than, um, you already know, leaving the seal groups pre 9 11 and by no means attending to go to fight. Not as a result of I needed to go to fight, however as a result of I felt like I used to be deserting my brothers and you already know, when a kind of guys died, all of us sort of have this silly picture of ourselves that perhaps we, it might’ve been completely different or no matter. Um, and so I, I, I remorse getting out of the seal groups, however I don’t remorse what’s occurred since. So it’s, it’s a blended bag, however that, that one’s, I imply, that one haunts me. Like I at all times assume like perhaps, you already know,

Mike Sarraille (26:41):
Nicely, regardless should you went battle or not, you prepped the subsequent era and, and given among the tales you inform me at dinner, I’m so glad that the seals within the nineties didn’t go to battle <chortle> you guys had been the wild kids and God assist us. If we unleashed these, we had been

Kirk Parsley (26:55):
Actually the soiled dozen again then. Yeah.

Mike Sarraille (26:57):
Yeah. You guys had been nicely with that. We’ll we’ll be proper again. And we’re again with duck, Kirk parsley, Navy seal, and nationally famend. Can I say that nationally famend sleep and human. You may

Kirk Parsley (27:12):
Truly, you possibly can really say internationally, internationally. I I’ve lectured internationally.

Mike Sarraille (27:16):
You you’re famend

Kirk Parsley (27:17):
Worldwide man.

Mike Sarraille (27:19):
Let, let, as a result of you’re a beast and I do know individuals will see you on the, the movies for this. What, how outdated are you?

Kirk Parsley (27:26):
I’ll be 52 subsequent month.

Mike Sarraille (27:28):
That’s fucking outdated.

Kirk Parsley (27:29):
I do know. Okay. It’s all. However I most likely, you already know, any, like, I’m simply daily’s gravy from now. Like I’ve like, I’ve already lived longer than I anticipated

Mike Sarraille (27:40):
It. We, you look good, dude. If I look nearly as good as you, after I’m 52, that’s gonna be a victory.

Kirk Parsley (27:46):
Nicely, you higher begin working. <chortle>

Mike Sarraille (27:48):
Yeah. We’ll we’ll evaluate, physique scans after,

Kirk Parsley (27:51):
, now we gained after this. Yeah. You’re I’m certain you’re leaner than I’m.

Mike Sarraille (27:55):
Okay. So, you already know, we, we talked about sleep and that was academic. I feel for everybody within the crowd and, and academic for the listeners, it’s one thing we, we, we simply dismiss it. I imply, you may dismiss it if you’re 20 getting drunk, along with your, your buddies working off of two hours of sleep they usually go to work. However as you become older, that’s simply, it’s, it’s

Kirk Parsley (28:14):
Not there. Nicely, you consider simply our society normally and never simply America, however Western society. What’s the very first thing you quit. Oh, sleep for something. It’s like time crunch. Oh, I gotta get all these items performed. I don’t have sufficient time. I’ll go to mattress later. I’ll stand up earlier. Proper. That’s the very first thing we quit needs to be the very last thing we quit as a result of it impacts every part we do. And so whether or not utilizing your physique or your mind to get that undertaking performed, you’re impairing the method. So should you say, nicely, I’m going to chop my sleep brief by two hours. You’re gonna lose about nearly three hours of effectivity that subsequent day. So it’s a adverse sum recreation and also you’re tearing your self down. You’re growing older actually? Proper? As a result of should you, should you may, should you had good sleep, what would occur is you’d fall asleep and you’d restore 100% and you’d get up the subsequent day precisely the best way you had been that morning. So you’d by no means age.

Mike Sarraille (29:15):
So I perceive this and, and I perceive this due to you and I, and I do know for, for the listeners, Kirk and I’ve recognized one another for a very long time. I, so I, I’m in mattress by most likely eight. And, I feel, you already know, my spouse calls me the gremlin. Yeah. Cuz she’s watching, actuality TV and he or she pokes me to, to, to observe a sure scene. I, I, I react. Yeah. Not nicely <chortle> and so she calls me the grumbling, so Hey, we are going to transfer past sleep. However I imply, you went as far to create duck, partially sleep cures. The place, the place can individuals discover that? And what, what, what’s it?

Kirk Parsley (29:51):
Yeah. So when, after I was, after I determined that I, that, I needed to get the fellows off of the sleep medicine, clearly they had been taking sleep medicine as a result of they couldn’t sleep. So I needed to give them one thing in, proper. I did, I needed to substitute with one thing and all prescribed drugs are actually sort of the identical, um, there’s nuances, however all of them, all of them mess up the sleep structure, um, which is just like the completely different levels of sleep. So, um, as a result of I may work with all of those consultants all around the world and sleep and diet and you already know, neurology and all these issues. I, I did my very own analysis and I discovered what dietary supplements really assist with sleep and why. And I simply made an inventory of all of’em after which all of the staff guys had been going to purchase this. They’re going to purchase the record of all these merchandise, one after the other. After which they only hared me into making a product. Cuz they had been like ISS, a ache within the ass. We gotta go to all these completely different shops

Mike Sarraille (30:46):
And this, so that you, you had been in a van down by the river principally. Yeah. Concocting.

Kirk Parsley (30:50):
Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Sarraille (30:51):
Completely different components. No,

Kirk Parsley (30:52):
No. So, so I used to be sending ’em to the shop after which they had been like, they had been like, man, I bought like, I gotta purchase this in a powder and it is a capsule and it is a 90 day provide. That’s a 60 day. I gotta journey with all this shit. Are you able to simply make one thing? And I used to be like, all proper, I’ll strive, I’ll strive. I’ll strive. After which I, I like dropped out of medical follow that I’m simply gonna, I’ll construct this complement over the course of a yr. I’m simply gonna promote it to the seal groups. After which I’m gonna return into medical, like brick and mortar. And I simply survived off of consulting. Like I, I gave up my revenue. I mentioned, I’m simply gonna construct this actual fast. had a few pals make investments and we constructed it up actual fast. Nonetheless don’t promote to the seals. Six days, six years later, no contracts with the navy, ton of seals by it. A ton of navy individuals purchase it on their very own. I give them like a giant low cost, cuz that’s why I constructed it, nevertheless it changed into an actual enterprise. Um, after which after I go lecture everywhere and individuals are like, nicely, what’s a very good sleep complement. I’m nicely that occurred to occur. That’s mine. Proper?

Mike Sarraille (349):
Mine mine’s finest. Yeah. Now you’ve additionally created, not too long ago a, a sleep journal, which I imply you’ve shared with me.

Kirk Parsley (356):
Yeah. So it’s principally what we’re speaking about. Like, um, all of the sleep hygiene stuff, but additionally like how do you get stress out of, as a result of the primary motive individuals don’t sleep whereas the stress. So how do you take away stress from the equation? So I’ve written blogs and given, I, I, I gave a 4 day lecture on simply that matter like 4, eight hour days. Um, and I, and I’ve principally made a journal. That’s a abstract. Um, and, and we’re promoting it on my website. Um, but when any, anyone listening to this or anyone within the viewers who desires that, um, should you simply electronic mail me at kirkparsleydotcomorkirkparsley.com. Yeah. Um, I I’ll electronic mail you. The it’s a PDF. We, we’ve it in a certain, however I’ll electronic mail you the, that. However should you go to doc parsley.com, my web site, you may, you should purchase the journal on there. You should buy the sleep complement on there. You possibly can record the lots of of hours of podcast. If you happen to’re so inclined or watch the lectures, learn, learn blogs, no matter, there’s a ton of sleep stuff on there. There’s different stuff, hormones and what have you ever. However

Mike Sarraille (33:04):
Yeah, let’s, let’s get into, to the human efficiency aspect, which I do know has turn out to be your ardour. Cuz so many people that know you come to you and say, Hey, you already know, I’m not feeling proper. Proper. you, it really remind me. and once more, I feel it was to not, to hone in on Joco. I feel it was, 2006. I used to be about to show 30. I feel he was 35 on the time or one thing like that. And he’s like, Hey, if you flip 30, nothing will heal the identical. I’m like, ah, no matter. No, I’m like, you don’t know me. I’m I’m a excessive performer. I’m good. And, and he was proper, proper. And it bought worse at 40 and I’m gonna assume it solely will get worse

Kirk Parsley (33:39):
At up, will get worse at 50, at 50, at fifties, after I actually began getting accidents that didn’t heal, wish to take months to heal. And I’m like, man, that’s what it healed in two weeks in my twenties.

Mike Sarraille (33:50):
<chortle> so clarify to me. And it jogs my memory that I feel it was the outdated John Wayne quote and I, I gained’t use the phrase, getting outdated isn’t for cowards. Yeah. Yeah. What’s it particularly as we age as males, what’s degrading to the purpose that human efficiency medication can step in and begin to present?

Kirk Parsley (34:12):
I imply, it it’s the identical. It’s the identical for women and men. Once more, just like the metaphor I gave earlier. Um, if, if you consider a child, take into consideration a 14 yr outdated, a 14 yr outdated goes to sleep. They sleep for 12 hours. In the event that they’re uninterrupted, proper? In the event that they don’t should stand up, they’ll sleep for 12, perhaps 14 hours, however they really get up higher than they had been the day earlier than. So that they, they grew, they improved, they get smarter, they get stronger, they bought quicker. After which sooner or later roughly round 30, it could possibly be anyplace from 25 to 35, relying in your genetics and the way you’ve lived your life and the way critical you might be concerning the different pillars of well being, like diet, train and stress mitigation. Um, you, it turns into a, a wash and also you’re like going to mattress recovering about the identical as you had been the subsequent day.

Kirk Parsley (35:00):
After which someplace round 35, 30, 35, it begins dropping off and also you don’t get well 100% each night time and that’s largely hormone, however there’s so much concerned. It’s it’s epigenetics, which is like, what genes are expressed. There’s issues known as ssen cells. So like older cells which might be dying. There’s blood stream points. As you get athlos groceries, you don’t get as a lot blood and oxygen. And if you consider it, all growing older actually means is that you simply’re turning into much less able to restoration, proper? As a result of if you’re outdated, why do you die? Nicely, you die as a result of you may’t struggle off sickness as nicely. You’re immune, proper? You, you simply don’t get well as nicely. You fall down the steps, you don’t get well as nicely. You get injured, you don’t get well as nicely. So that you’re extra prone to die as you become older. And that’s actually all it’s. You’re simply not as succesful as restoration.

Kirk Parsley (35:47):
So restoration is every part. It’s your dietary standing. It’s blood stream. It’s hormone, simply genetics. It’s your, you already know, and that may be supplemented, like complement supplemental nutritions. Like you possibly can be poor on micronutrients. You may be poor on nutritional vitamins. You may be, you already know, there there’s herbs that may adapt kind of your hormone regulation. There’s precise hormones. There’s peptides that mimic issues in your physique that have an effect on your immune system that impacts your restoration. Like all of these issues matter, however the life-style’s 90% of it, proper? You continue to should sleep nicely, you continue to should eat nicely. You continue to should train recurrently. Exercising recurrently is the most effective factor for longevity is the most effective factor to struggle off illness is the most effective factor for cognition. And it’s the most effective factor for every part, you already know? Um, after which, you already know, you gotta have the ability to management your stress and that may be mindfulness.

It may be meditation. That could possibly be, perhaps you management your stress via train, proper? It’s like, perhaps you’re a meditator. Possibly you do yoga. It doesn’t matter what you do. So long as some individuals get it from group. That’s why lots of people with group who go to church or they stay in huge households, they stay longer as a result of they’ve group, they’ve decrease stress. They really feel like they’ve extra help. And so you must stability all of these issues, however that’s an excellent life-style, however then there’s actuality, proper? Cuz there’s limitations to what you are able to do. After which in between, right here’s the place we complement. That’s the place we provide you with dietary supplements. Possibly there’s far, perhaps there’s a pharmaceutical. Possibly there’s a hormone. Possibly there’s a PSM. Possibly there’s a peptide. Possibly, you already know, perhaps there’s a gadget we are able to use that can assist you meditate. There’s a gadget we are able to use that can assist you get to sleep quicker. There’s a gadget we are able to use that can assist you monitor your diet again to that. You,

Mike Sarraille (37:25):
You carry up the SARMs, you carry up the peptide as you carry up the hormones and also you let’s let’s let’s solidify this earlier than you even go there. Proper. It’s important to have that basis of what you mentioned, sleep correct diet. Yeah. And, and train. Proper. And, and

Kirk Parsley (37:40):
You, you possibly can, you possibly can take horse doses of hormones and soms and peptides drink beer all day, eat pizza and never work out. And also you’re not going to be wholesome. Like that’s not the best way it really works. Such as you, you must have the inspiration to get the profit from it. These issues don’t matter in any respect, should you aren’t doing the opposite issues. Proper.

Mike Sarraille (37:58):
So, you already know, and we’re gonna get into psychedelics briefly. Yeah. in the present day. And, and we’re gonna carry on Dr. Martin, Polanco, who we each know and, and has been essential to our lives and helped a whole lot of our, our brothers with, with trauma, remedy. While you point out PSMs peptides and hormones, there’s identical to this nonetheless this soiled

Kirk Parsley (38:22):
Yeah.

Mike Sarraille (38:23):
Connotation that individuals are like, no, I don’t wanna try this. That’s that’s and it,

Kirk Parsley (38:26):
And it’s so dumb, nevertheless it’s simply the best way it really works, man. It’s simply politics.

Mike Sarraille (38:30):
As a result of if my testosterone is low, the one solution to enhance that to a significant degree exterior of sleep, diet and train is to truly complement to get my H my, my testosterone, a wholesome

Kirk Parsley (38:41):
Yard. Yeah. I imply, should you had been, should you had been 35 and your hormones had been low, I’s most likely different prescribed drugs I may provide you with that will get you up there. However when you recover from, you already know, if you get to love mid forties, the chances that we’re gonna get you up into that higher 20% of the vary, which is the place all the actual advantages proven to be. If you happen to take the bell curve of what’s regular, it’s an enormous vary. 250 to 1100. So what does 600 inform me within the vary, proper? Is that within the vary for you? Like, I don’t know. I’d should know you your entire life. Proper? So, however what, if you stratify that and also you say, all proper, let’s break it down into twentieth percentiles, Quintiles. The individuals whose testosterone, whole testosterone are in that higher quintile lowest threat of loss of life, lowest threat of illness. In order that there are one, proper? What’s your threat one. You go all the way down to the subsequent quintile that doubles it doubles once more. While you go down doubles once more, if you go down doubles once more, if you go down, you do the mathematics. If you happen to’re within the lowest quintile, you’re 16 occasions extra prone to die of something. You’re 16 occasions extra prone to have any illness, however baseball gamers use testosterone to cheat in a house run contest. And so we don’t wanna provide you with

Mike Sarraille (39:54):
Testosterone, which was the best yr of baseball. It was like

Kirk Parsley (39:57):
The best a part of baseball ever.

Mike Sarraille (39:59):
I, so, McGuire. Yeah, that was, that was the best

Kirk Parsley (40:02):
I gave, I gave a lecture to an expert baseball staff and I used McGuire after I did the testosterone, slide. It was him hitting a house

Mike Sarraille (40:12):
Like, and he was within the crowd.

Kirk Parsley (40:14):
He was one of many coaches on the staff. <chortle> however he was completely cool about it. He was completely cool about it. He talked to me for like an hour. He was a fantastic man.

Mike Sarraille (40:21):
I, I don’t care what anybody says. I, I keep in mind that one season. I don’t bear in mind some other season. Yeah. I imply, that was the most effective baseball we’ve ever seen. So, you already know, let, let’s discuss blood work cuz each time I come to you, step one is at all times, Hey, let’s get blood labs. Proper? The it’s nearly from a, from a, person who, that doesn’t have a medical background. It looks like that’s at all times kind of your baseline. The blood says

Kirk Parsley (40:45):
All. I imply it must be proper. Prefer it, it, I imply, it doesn’t should be blood. It could possibly be blood, it could possibly be urine. It could possibly be saliva relying on what we’re testing. Mm-hmm <affirmative> nevertheless it’d be the identical. If you happen to got here to me and mentioned, Hey, I’m having sleep issues. And I mentioned, how a lot are you sleeping? Stated, I don’t know.

Mike Sarraille (40:58):
Like,

Kirk Parsley (40:59):
All proper, nicely, I, I don’t know what to do with that, however let me do some labs on you. Proper? Identical factor. I’m having issues. Nicely, I don’t know what your hormones appear like. I don’t know what your irritation seems like. I don’t know what your, toxicity ranges, proper. You may have like environmental talks, you get, I imply, being a staff man, particularly your staff, I assure you could have lead toxicity. If you happen to’ve by no means labored to get it out, you could have it. Um, so I don’t know any of that till I take a look at. And as soon as I see every part I can say, that is most likely the very first thing we must always work on as a result of that is, that is like, this one factor will repair 60% of the issues. After which this one factor will repair 10% prefer it. After which we work out the order wherein we

Mike Sarraille (441):
Now right me if I’m incorrect right here, as a result of it looks like conventional medication. And what I imply by that’s after I go in for my annual checkup, proper. With my Tricare physician, proper. Who’s not precisely, hitting a, a excessive share there. I, even in my forties, they’re not asking for strong blood labs. What, what can a male in his late thirties, forties, and fifties do on his personal exterior of his common practitioner to, to test these ranges?

Kirk Parsley (42:10):
Nicely, I imply, these days with all the environmental, so it like all of the, just like the BPA you hear about within the plastics, however all, nearly all of those environmental toxins, just like the, the pesticides and people different issues, this stuff all act like estrogen. In order that’s why they’re affecting males greater than ladies. Um, and so the very first thing, the very first thing that any man must do is get a full hormone P profile. And that full hormone profile goes from ldl cholesterol all the best way previous testosterone to D H, T and estradiol, as a result of testosterone can turn out to be a kind of two issues. We want every part in between there in order that we all know what we’re coping with. After which we’d like customary blood work on high of that. After which we’d like, you already know, your thyroid hormones and your adrenal hormones, your stress hormones, we have to, as a result of each hormone impacts each different hormone.

Kirk Parsley (43:02):
So that will be, that will be the baseline. I might say, should you’re 35 or over, that will be a very powerful factor to do. after which it might, after which it might be like a metabol, which might be like your nutritional vitamins and minerals, which isn’t customary labs both. So, after which you probably have a job, such as you’ve had, I’d say, nicely, let’s test you for lead toxicity. This take a look at you for manganese sort, like let’s take a look at your poisonous ranges, however Joe blow, he has principally gone, gone to school, bought married, bought a job, I’d say full hormone panel. And I imply, each hormone you may take a look at for insulin, thyroid cortisol, each anabolic hormone, each, each catabolic hormone.

Mike Sarraille (43:51):
Now a few of this sounds value prohibitive.

Kirk Parsley (43:55):
You will get that entire panel for like 600 bucks.

Mike Sarraille (43:58):
That’s some huge cash for, for lots of people.

Kirk Parsley (44:01):
Nicely, you’d solely have to do this huge of 1, perhaps as soon as mm-hmm <affirmative>, however like Tricare would, should you instructed your physician, Hey man, I need this stuff. you probably have healthcare insurance coverage, your physician can order most of these issues. And should you needed to simply go add a number of issues after that, you, you possibly can most likely get away for 100, 100, perhaps 20

Mike Sarraille (44:23):
Bucks. Now for the fellows listening that that may’t afford PSMs and peptides and hormones, is it at all times simply return to these core three sleep diet

Kirk Parsley (44:33):
Train. So I, I say sleep is the inspiration that the pillars sit on, proper? So sleep’s a very powerful factor you, after which you could have a pillar of diet. You could have a pillar of train, you could have a pillar of stress mitigation. Sure. If sleep’s dangerous, all of the pillars are gonna fall, proper? As a result of that’s the inspiration. however in case you are say a shift employee and also you don’t have an choice, optimize these three pillars for certain. And sleep’s not gonna be nice, that’s the best way your life’s constructed. Um, however these guys can do some fairly apparent, hormone enchancment. So you may take, you may take some dietary supplements, there’s adrenal dietary supplements that can assist your restore, your adrenals, taking one thing as merely as seven keto, D H E a, that can enhance your testosterone, cuz that may’t turn out to be estrogen taking zinc 60 milligrams of zinc, saturated, a that’ll block, estrogen conversion by just a little bit, that’ll elevate your testosterone. A person’s at all times gonna really feel just a little higher with testosterone, with just a little extra testosterone. So that will be a, that will be a spot to start out. If you happen to couldn’t do labs, should you couldn’t do any labs, it’s not gonna drive you excessive. Proper. If, if, if, if we did occur to do labs and also you turned out, you had been like maxing out the testosterone degree and you probably did all that different stuff, it wouldn’t wouldn’t change your testosterone degree. Trigger you maxed it out. Prefer it it’s a self-regulating system. So that will be value making an attempt.

Mike Sarraille (45:54):
Let’s let’s get right into a topic that, I imply, you’ve spoken so much about it, ed erectile, dysfunction. And, and I’m simply gonna state, I don’t have a erectile dysfunction. My spouse’s within the viewers. Yeah. I need that to be understood. Um, no, no, no, however severely once more, let’s take a look at the seal group. Plenty of brothers had this challenge cuz of the issues that they, they, they confronted and the physiology of the, the impacts they confronted at battle. Um, what’s the largest false impression about ed and, and, and who’s most often affected by it.

Kirk Parsley (46:30):
Nicely, so I, I might say the largest false impression about ed is that, is, is that when that occurs, you’re, you’re doomed. Um, as a result of it may be an intermittent factor. It may be one thing that it may be attributable to psychology, which is actually widespread. Um, you already know, unfor sadly in in the present day’s world porn dependancy is a giant motive for it. however you, your, your, your psychology round efficiency, if it doesn’t fairly work one night time, it’s extra prone to occur once more. In order that, the, the largest false impression is like, oh, now I’ve ed that’s me to any extent further. Proper. I’m gonna be preventing this eternally now. Prefer it’s very attainable. It’s only a brief time period factor. You’ll want to therapeutic massage a number of issues round after which every part’s gonna come again. Um, after which the opposite false impression is that it’s uncommon. It’s not uncommon. Prefer it it’s, it’s like 60, 70% of individuals, most likely males most likely by 40 have had it. And by 50 it’s most likely nearer to 80%.

Mike Sarraille (47:36):
No kidding.

Kirk Parsley (47:37):
After which that doesn’t imply this each time, nevertheless it’s like, you already know, one out of each 10 occasions perhaps you’re like, oh, this isn’t working. Proper. Um, so it, it, it’s one thing that’s certain to occur, like grey hair, prefer it’s, there’s gonna be a point of that sooner or later in your life and simply roll with it, man. It’s identical to, no matter. It’s, it’s just a few, it’s one thing to work on. And there’s a ton of remedies. There’s so many issues you are able to do

Mike Sarraille (48:01):
For that. However backside line is go, simply go see your physician, go see don’t, don’t be embarrassed

Kirk Parsley (48:05):
To physician. Don’t be embarrassed and like speak to different individuals. like I, um, I’ll, I’ll be, I’ll be weak right here. Like I had a problem with that after I had COVID and I began speaking to individuals they usually mentioned, each time I talked to a man who had had COVID, he was like, you already know what? I sort of hung that too. Trigger it wasn’t a extreme factor, nevertheless it was like, yeah, that is actually completely different. Like what’s happening right here? No one desires to speak

Mike Sarraille (48:29):
About it. Do, do you assume that’s what the Chinese language had been after was trigger ed,

Kirk Parsley (48:32):
They had been

Mike Sarraille (48:32):
Most likely after the American male

Kirk Parsley (48:34):
Ed, they didn’t need me to procreate anymore.

Mike Sarraille (48:36):
Received it, bought it. Rattling.

Kirk Parsley (48:37):
<chortle>

Mike Sarraille (48:38):
Rattling. The, Chinese language authorities. Um, let, let’s speak just a little about, and, and for the listeners, Kirk is just not going anyplace. In actual fact, Kirk is a part of this males’s journal daily warrior initiative, he’s gonna be a contributor. He’s gonna be serving to males get again to that optimum well being. And we’re gonna be diving in, intimately to a whole lot of the issues we’ve mentioned on this podcast. However I wanna discuss psychological well being actually shortly once more, which once more is like ed is just not one thing to be embarrassed about. Proper? I battle with my psychological well being relying on, on setting stressors that that’s simply being human, however

Kirk Parsley (49:20):
Nicely, you and you’ve got a thousand head accidents.

Mike Sarraille (49:24):
I’ve I’ve bought lesions on the mind. I’ve bought a number of lesions

Kirk Parsley (49:26):
On the mind. Like each, each particular pressure this man has had 1000’s of head accidents, simply the over pressurization, the blast gun gunfire, Carl Gustos like, these are head accidents.

Mike Sarraille (49:38):
However regardless if, should you served at battle or not, I imply, there there’s trauma. I imply, there’s, there’s psychological well being. I imply the setting in society in the present day, however let, let’s discuss once more, just like your method that pissed off conventional Navy medication, proper? You began referring a whole lot of these seals that had been coping with psychological well being points. Yeah. If individuals wanna say PTSD, that’s superb. I name it survivor’s guilt.

Kirk Parsley (50:03):
Yeah. I don’t, I don’t, I, I don’t assume we’d like a D we don’t must name it.

Mike Sarraille (50:08):
It’s not a, it’s not a

Kirk Parsley (50:09):
Dysfunction. We don’t want a dysfunction. No. And I don’t assume we have to put up trauma. Proper. It’s stress. And does it, does it actually matter if the stress is due to your job? Does it actually matter if the stress is physiologic due to accidents? Does it matter if it’s due to an emotional occasion? Does it matter if it’s since you’re going via chapter or since you’re going via it doesn’t matter. It’s stress and that stress is catabolic. It’s breaking you down. It’s interfering along with your sleep, which is breaking you down even additional. And it’s, and nearly each main psychiatric illness is preceded by a interval of insomnia when you may’t sleep nicely, your mind doesn’t work nicely. And something you’re prone to your neurochemistry modifications and chances are you’ll get depressed, or chances are you’ll be, chances are you’ll be just a little bipolar. Such as you may need a contact of that.

Kirk Parsley (50:57):
And chances are you’ll go right into a manic episode. You realize, there’s all kinds of issues that may come out of that. Um, and, and issues simply so simple as your cognition, when you may’t bear in mind issues and you may’t focus nicely, you may’t concentrate. Nicely, you begin doubting your self. And that doubt cycles into extra stress, which makes it more durable so that you can downward spiral stuff. And now you could have anxiousness as a result of you may’t belief your self to carry out. And also you don’t know what the hell’s incorrect with you, what’s happening with me. Proper. Um, so all of us have it and all of it manifests itself as a dysfunction, proper? Which means that we’re not performing the best way we need to carry out and it might probably at all times be improved upon regardless of how, how dialed in you might be, we are able to do higher. And so should you’re optimals right here and also you’re dwelling right here and also you get down right here, you’re feeling it. However getting again right here may simply be the way you’re performing. We may nonetheless go higher.

Mike Sarraille (548):
Yeah. So we each come from the identical group and the, the seal group, the navy at giant at all times had a motto undergo in silence.

Kirk Parsley (557):
Oh yeah.

Mike Sarraille (558):
And, um, I’m glad to say that, that, that has been damaged. Proper. And probably the most masculine factor you may ever do. The largest factor as a person, that the strongest factor is to say, Hey, I I’m having psychological well being points. Yeah. And should you’re round a very good tribe, they’ll wrap their arms round you they usually’ll say, Hey, that’s okay. Let’s, let’s get someone to, to speak to, however let’s so the VA, which I’m not gonna sit right here and bag on the veteran affairs. There’s, there’s good folks that work on the veteran affairs that care. However sadly they work underneath rules.

Kirk Parsley (52:28):
They’re overly regulated underfunded and

Mike Sarraille (52:31):
Very similar to Navy conventional

Kirk Parsley (52:32):
Medication. I imply, it’s only a, you already know,

Mike Sarraille (52:34):
So even throughout the civilian world although, you already know, psychological well being points are often handled, with a prescription pad. Proper. And I, I had buddies that had been on 17 completely different capsules,

Kirk Parsley (52:47):
Quite common.

Mike Sarraille (52:49):
You mentioned this, this, this doesn’t make sense. Yeah. And also you mentioned, we have to open our aperture. And also you began referring seals to a psychedelic remedy, retreat in Mexico.

Kirk Parsley (52:59):
Nicely, I may solely do it after. Sure. After they needed to, they needed to be add to the groups. however within the like lively responsibility now can do issues proper now as a result of, due to maps, individuals can do MDMA and other people can do ketamine cuz they will go right into a medical setting and do it. Um, and people in these days you couldn’t do something. However yeah, I, I referred, I imply I referred individuals who had been, you already know, writing their suicide letter about to suck, begin their pistol. And I’m like, Hey, I, this, this therapy really scares me. I’m nervous to suggest this to you, however I’m gonna go down there. What,

Mike Sarraille (53:37):
What are, what the recourses

Kirk Parsley (53:38):
Going occur? It’s like, you’re about to kill your self. Yeah. If this factor kills, you I’ll really feel responsible eternally, nevertheless it may flip issues round and it, and it turns issues round and all it takes, you already know, the primary man that I, that I had try this had an incredible consequence. After which he instructed two of his buddies and you know the way it goes from there. And now you could have like 400 plus of simply of

Mike Sarraille (53:58):
Our guys, particular operations guys. Yeah.

Kirk Parsley (54:00):
Yeah. And, and the, and far more than that, which have gotten wonderful, wonderful outcomes.

Mike Sarraille (54:04):
Nicely, I, I went due to you. Yeah. And also you instructed me, and I pushed that off for 2 years, however that was, I wanna say that was probably the most fascinating expertise I’ve ever had. Yeah. And specifically, we’re gonna sit down with Dr. Martin, into an episode right here shortly and we’re gonna dive into the small print, however the two types of medication and, and what I gotta say, the setting that they, that they create for that weekend couldn’t be extra skilled with cardiologists with, you already know, coronary heart price screens. Proper. You undergo a radical medical screening, however first night time was Ivy recreation, which I I’ll be sincere was tough. Proper. I needed to get off that experience actual fast. Yep. Um, however that set the circumstances for the subsequent factor, which was 5 EO DMT, which Mike Tyson on, on the Joe Rogan podcast has talked concerning the ego killer, which was probably the most religious factor I’ve ever skilled. Yeah. And that was life altering.

Kirk Parsley (55:04):
I’ve performed that one myself and I had the identical expertise.

Mike Sarraille (55:07):
Yeah. And, and the quantity of, once more, it goes again to the, the stigma of, I, I used to be even afraid to inform my dad I’m, I’m 44. Proper. I used to be afraid to inform my outdated man, who’s a, who’s a religious Roman Catholic that I used to be happening a psychedelic, remedy.

Kirk Parsley (55:20):
And, and once more, that’s all politics. It’s identical to the hormones, identical to testosterone, testosterone exists in your physique. It exists in women and men. It’s a pure hormone when it’s dysregulated. Why don’t we re-regulate it political causes? Nicely, psychedelics have been recognized about for a very long time. And within the sixties, they began learning ’em and a few congressman’s son like overdosed on some sort of psychedelic and all of the psychedelic analysis went away till like 10 years in the past. And now they’re going, oh my gosh, it does all this wonderful factor who would’ve ever figured {that a} plant that developed to be on the planet on the identical time of us, that we may ingest and has some, a profit to us. Nicely, we eat crops and that advantages us. So why would we predict that consuming another plant that causes another sort of response that’s helpful? Why is that dangerous? Once more? It’s all political. Um, it doesn’t make any sense from a healthcare practitioner. If I take a look at, if I’m, if I’m a seal who’s struggling,

Mike Sarraille (56:19):
I don’t, anybody who’s struggling. Yeah. I, I

Kirk Parsley (56:21):
Don’t care what we’ve to do to do away with the struggling. Proper? Like, let’s, let’s try this. If this works, let’s try this. Why would I say, oh no, no, no, not which you could take these 17 capsules, however don’t go drink that plant or don’t go take that capsule of, of that psychedelic medicine. It is not sensible. And our group particularly, it’s exhausting, exhausting, exhausting to be weak. It’s exhausting for individuals to open up. Um, it’s exhausting for individuals to confess that they will’t repair every part. And in order you already know, these medicine present you, you’re not something, buddy. You possibly can’t repair something and also you’re not, you’re not all that

Mike Sarraille (56:56):
<chortle>. Nicely, you already know, one of many key dietary supplements that got here from that journey that is part of my every day routine is microdosing, proper. Microdosing of psilocybin. Proper. Which might be one of many best temper enhancers and even focus. Yeah. dietary supplements that I’ve ever taken and in no, at no level am I ever I’ll say tripping or going right into a psychedelic journey with microdosing. Proper. Proper. And I do know for some individuals, psilocybin wasn’t, wasn’t working. So that they’re microdosing, LSD once more, identical impact. They’re not tripping.

Mike Sarraille (57:37):
Something, nicely guys, Kirk, at this level of the present, we need to flip it over to the viewers. If there’s any questions for Kirk within the wealth of information that he has, we’ve bought a microphone within the again. Um, please be happy. Nira is holding it. Please be happy to ask any questions.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Hey, Dr. Kirk, it’s Austin Tally. I undoubtedly, I’m gonna be reaching out. Um, my, considered one of my finest pals and I each have an issue the place we simply can’t flip our mind off. It looks like, yeah. Um, we’ve two completely different life experiences. mine is, is 10 years of fight and, and him is the stresses of entrepreneurship certainly as a result of daily you assume you’re gonna go.

Kirk Parsley (58:19):
You’re my two purchasers. That’s who I work with, like 99% of who I work with proper there, these two.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
I suppose should you may sum up any help out of flip our mind off just a little bit, cuz I’ve performed the blue mild glasses too, I, I even use ’em to observe TV now. I don’t choose up any electronics with out ’em. Um, however I, I clearly I’m gonna be hitting you up for extra of a private, one on one, however um, any steering on that.

Mike Sarraille (58:48):
So principally you’re jacked up at night time.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Yeah. Some days I can fall asleep at 9 o’clock at night time and a few days it’s not until 3:30 within the morning, I’m nonetheless waking up at 6:50 daily with out alarm clock.

Kirk Parsley (59:01):
Yeah. Nicely what I can say is, um, you already know, there, there may be, there’s a medical board specialty for docs that, work with individuals who have sleep ailments. I’m not that man like, proper. So I’m, I’m a, I’m a doctor that values sleep and, and teaches so much about it. Um, so I don’t work with sleep diseased individuals. If they’ve a illness, I ship ’em to a sleep specialist. Um, however I can inform you nearly each single shopper that I’ve ever had, whether or not it’s a seal, who simply I’m simply consulting as a buddy or a shopper who’s paying me. Um, nearly each, nearly each considered one of ’em. And I can’t consider any exceptions, however I’ll nonetheless say nearly, um, stress is the explanation they will’t sleep. And I’ve developed over time, this seemingly ridiculous, ridiculously easy protocol to do away with stress round sleep. And it’s probably the most, it’s probably the most highly effective factor I do. It’s extra highly effective than any hormone and pharmaceutical I do. Um, and it’s simply, it’s only a course of to take away stress from the sleep setting, from each preparing for sleep. And whilst you’re asleep,

Mike Sarraille (020):
You had an ideal alternative proper there to be like, simply go to doc Parley, sleep aids.com. And purchase my dietary supplements,

Kirk Parsley (028):
My complement may assist just a little bit, however should you’re actually burdened, there’s nothing in there. That’s gonna knock you out. However I, however that sleep journal I used to be speaking about that has right here. Right here’s how, right here’s the way you categorize all of your stresses and right here’s the way you do away with these round bedtime. Right here’s the way you do away with these should you get up in the midst of the night time. Um, and so it it’s a course of. It might take, it’d take some time to elucidate, nevertheless it’s, it’s in that sleep journal.

Speaker 3 (0000):
Nicely, thanks physician. I’ll be, reducing my entrepreneurship partnership then and hitting you up for a greater sleep concepts.

Mike Sarraille (0007):
Proper, proper on. All proper. We bought time for another query, perhaps.

Speaker 4 (0010):
Okay. So what should you get sufficient sleep, however you’re nonetheless drained on a regular basis, however I imply such as you get sufficient sleep, however you’re nonetheless simply at all times exhausted. How have you learnt you’re getting sufficient sleep? I really feel like even after I get eight, 9 hours of sleep at night time consecutively, I’m nonetheless simply drained.

Kirk Parsley (0034):
Then you definitely’re not getting sufficient sleep. It’d…

Mike Sarraille (0037):
Is it sufficient sleep or good sleep?

Kirk Parsley (0039):
And that’s what I used to be gonna say. You may be sleeping for eight hours, however the sleep high quality may be value 4 hours.

Speaker 4 (0047):
So it’s simply lack of high quality sleep, which is,

Kirk Parsley (0050):
If you happen to’re waking, should you’re waking up drained, then there’s one thing incorrect with sleep both. It’s both the period of sleep or it’s the standard of sleep or each. Um, so once more, that will be a sort of the sleep hygiene factor. We have to be sure that caffeine’s not getting concerned. We want to verify stress not getting concerned. We want to verify there’s no drugs getting concerned. There’s no metabolic factor. Like you probably have, like, should you had been say pre-diabetic and you’ve got poor insulin management and poor blood glucose management that may intrude with sleep, um, there’s a number of issues. You may be a extremely dangerous snore. You may have sleep apnea, um, the place you’re really stopping respiration and turning into acidic. There’s a whole lot of issues that could possibly be occurring, in there, nevertheless it it’s, should you you’re waking up drained, it’s not sufficient sleep both since you’re not sleeping sufficient hours or there’s not sufficient high quality within the hours that you’re sleeping.

Mike Sarraille (002:44):
And likewise, do you could have a follow someplace or I’m not

Kirk Parsley (002:49):
Gonna miss that? I, I, I follow just about, proper. So I, I do on-line, on-line consulting. I’ll, I’ll meet with you as soon as and do labs and so forth, after which every part else will likely be on-line from there.

Mike Sarraille (003:01):
Superior. Thanks. Yeah. And, and the place can they discover you?

Kirk Parsley (003:06):
Um, so D C brief for physician, after which my final identify is partially just like the herb. So doc parsley.com

Mike Sarraille (003:13):
And, and we’ll ensure after we launch the, the podcast that everybody has these, URLs, these hyperlinks. Nicely, thanks. earlier than we are saying goodbye, we like to finish this podcast with two of our personal questions. And once more, very similar to the exhausting questions. These are deep. How will you measure your life and whether or not you’ve lived nicely?

Kirk Parsley (003:41):
I measure my life via braveness, um, and braveness to me simply means doing what I do know I must do. Um, and at this stage in several levels of my life, that meant various things. However at this stage of my life, what I care probably the most about is relationships. And so having the braveness rattling proper, having the braveness to at all times say what must be mentioned, not depart something unsaid in case tonight’s my final night time. Um, and, and that’s, I, and I, I preserve, I preserve the document in my head. I do know, I do know after I don’t have the braveness, and I do know after I’m, after I, I do know after I’m really fizzling out, not doing what I ought to do. Um, however so long as I’m doing, everyone knows what we needs to be doing. So long as I’m doing what I do know, what I needs to be doing, having the braveness to do it

Mike Sarraille (004:33):
Now, for all of us. Are there any particular guidelines or codes? What, what, I may additionally name your keys to success by which you reside your life?

Kirk Parsley (004:42):
I might return to that one. <chortle>, you already know, I, I, I might, I might nonetheless, I might nonetheless say doing what you, you already know, having the braveness to do what, you already know, you could do. And should you don’t have, the training to do it, having the braveness to say you don’t know and studying easy methods to do it. Um, I, I, I feel all of it comes down and that’s kind of a private integrity. If I visualize a future I need, and I provide you with a plan for shifting in direction of it. I’ve to have the braveness to do all of these issues alongside the best way, even after I don’t need to do ’em. And, and I, I contemplate like being drained and never feeling like doing it and nonetheless doing it. That’s nonetheless braveness. Proper? You’re nonetheless, you’re nonetheless doing what, you already know, you need to do, though you don’t really feel like doing it. Um, and so, like, I, I feel that’s a very powerful factor as a result of every part else is nuanced and particular person, however,

Mike Sarraille (005:32):
Nicely, it sounds such as you’re describing extra so than bodily braveness, ethical braveness, which is a uncommon trait, ethical the rarest of trait, for certain. Rarest of traits amongst males, particularly, even, even within the seal groups, we noticed lack of ethical braveness, generally AB completely. To face up for what’s proper. Whatever the, the outcomes. Nicely, Kirk, I can’t thanks sufficient for becoming a member of us. I imply, there’s, there’s, there’s so many topics right here that we have to deep, like do a deep dive on, however we’ve rather more time. We’ve got the articles that will likely be issued underneath males’s journal, the on a regular basis warrior. I do know males are fascinated with these topics, how they will get again to optimum well being for sustained intervals, if not the remainder of their life. So, yeah, we’ll get there, man. We’ll get there. And thanks for listening. Now, don’t overlook go to males’s journal.com to join the publication and get the most recent on a regular basis warrior methods and techniques to dwelling a objective pushed, fulfilling life, which all of you so rightly deserve. And once more, underneath that on a regular basis warrior idea, the three pillars are psychological well being, bodily well being in religious well being, perhaps with just a little journey blended in there. Yeah. whether or not you’re a person or girl, ensure to select up the brand new, challenge of males’s journal journal. It’s full of wonderful options on simply as we mentioned well being and health, journey, and journey fashion within the coolest gear, hitting the market in the present day. Thanks. And till subsequent time, that is Mike Sarraille with the Males’s Journal On a regular basis Warrior podcast out right here.

 



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