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On a regular basis Warrior Podcast Episode 15: Enterprise Capitalist Glenn Cowan


Males’s Journal’s On a regular basis Warrior With Mike Sarraille is a brand new podcast that evokes people to stay extra fulfilling lives by having conversations with disrupters and excessive performers in all walks of life. In our fifteenth episode, we spoke to Glenn Cowan, investor, enterprise capitalist, and former particular operations officer. Cowan based One9, a dual-use protection, safety, and intelligence funding group in Canada.
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Mike Sarraille
And welcome to the Males’s Journal on a regular basis warrior podcast along with your host, Mike Sarraille. That’s me and I’m joined by Glenn Cowan immediately, who’s a superb, good pal. No, he’s not well-known…but, however he tries to remain beneath the radar,

Glenn Cowan
Attempt to stay quiet {and professional} as finest we’ve been taught, but it surely’s uh, yeah, we’ll see how that goes.

Mike Sarraille
Properly, you’re failing on each fronts if that’s quiet {and professional} <chortle>.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah, I failed on the skilled half.

Mike Sarraille
Half. Okay. Properly, no, Glen is an effective, good buddy. I’m positive we’ll get into how we met. Uh, he’s Canadian, like Anicka Newell who, you already know.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah. We’ve crossed paths.

Mike Sarraille
Okay. So Glenn was Canadian tier one, a tier one operator. Can I, yeah, you may.

Glenn Cowan
Can I feel we’re good. I’m I’m I’m far sufficient for transfer, I feel, and doing my finest to characterize the neighborhood in a optimistic mild. So, yeah,

Mike Sarraille
And, and that, that’s the identical factor I attempt to do for my respective neighborhood. However inside Canada, they’ve a pressure generally known as joint process pressure two. Yeah. Often known as JTF two for brief, it’s their model of American tier one forces, uh, which, uh, you already know, Delta pressure and so forth. And they’re simply pretty much as good, simply as rogue, reduce from the identical material. I met them whereas serving, uh, within the army myself after which Glen, Glen, and I met by mutual mates. However, um, Glen, let’s dive in earlier than we speak about your time within the army, after which particularly you’ve crossed a website you’re extremely profitable in probably the most elite forces on this planet. And also you’re nonetheless crushing it now within the enterprise world, having stood up what I like to explain as Canada’s largest protection fund to this point, is that correct?

Glenn Cowan
Yeah, we’ve, uh, lately launched a enterprise capital fund, uh, that’s Canada’s first nationwide safety and demanding infrastructure fund. And, and I exploit a number of the parallels and analogies and the best way that we might’ve approached a particular operation in the best way that I take a look at corporations and make investments and fundraise and, and actually attempt to, uh, deploy and construct corporations, applied sciences and capabilities that really assist our collective nationwide protection and, and demanding infrastructure safety. So it’s actually rewarding as a result of it’s empowered me with one other sense of mission the place in, in a, in some ways I really feel that as a civilian exterior of the army, uh, we’ve had some successes the place we’re truly contributing to the collective nationwide safety of United States and Canada. I, in a approach that I wasn’t in a position to do whereas I used to be in service with a unit such as you, you described,

Mike Sarraille
So I’m gonna assume Intel was kind of the mannequin you wished to copy for Canada. Yeah. For these listening. Are you able to, are you able to clarify what for?

Glenn Cowan
Yeah, as we had been fundraising, we might form of describe ourselves because the Intel of Canada, somewhat little bit of a unique enterprise mannequin. Um, certainly one of my co GPS, uh, has a really shut relationship with INQ inform I used to be at a convention final week, uh, you already know, the place we had nice interactions with their senior administration. They’re truly in San Diego proper now internet hosting their very own convention the place my enterprise companion, uh, is attending as effectively. Um, however yeah, I imply, it’s, you already know, they’ve a singular restricted companion within the, within the authorities businesses that they assist, um, our enterprise, mannequin’s somewhat bit totally different, however our focus and our thesis is aligned. And I feel we’re gonna be doing a little, some fascinating issues, hopefully sooner or later with, uh, traders like INQ inform and lots of others south of the border right here within the us which have simply been wonderful as we’ve, uh, actually constructed on an American community as effectively.

Mike Sarraille
Let’s dive into the place you grew up, um, main as much as, to, to the time you joined the army. After which naturally I wish to dive into your time with JTF two. And what you realized as a pacesetter main a few of the most elite forces within the, uh, on this planet.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah, for positive. I grew up, uh, Northeast of Toronto in a city referred to as Markham form of typical suburban city to an enormous metropolis, uh, very hap kind of higher center class household. Um, my dad and mom are superior. Um, you already know, my mother, mom of three boys, I’ve two older brothers. Uh, my dad was a enterprise, uh, mentor and inspiration for me on the enterprise aspect. I come from an extended line of household enterprise enterprise. There’s some cool tales behind a few of the, the companies that my households form of introduced form of ahead. Uh, my mother was the glue and the rock that stored our fam our form of household on even keel. Um, now my, you already know, my oldest brother, I like him to loss of life. He’s wonderful. He’s a one eyed, uh, prison protection lawyer turned standup comic. Uh, my different brother is, uh, a surfer on a seashore in Noosa, Costa Rica.

Glenn Cowan
And so, you already know, the, the working joke in my household rising up was, he’s a really inventive man, my center brother. Um, you already know, he’s, he’s an enormous concepts thinker, a few of the initiatives that you simply and I are speaking about proper now, I’ve bounced some concepts off him on find out how to form of curate and innovate and kind of assume actually huge. And I’ve taken a number of inspiration from him, however the working joke in my household was I used to be gonna do one thing silly. My oldest brother would defend me and get me outta bother. And it might be a ok story that my center brother would make a film about it. And, and, uh, form of two outta three of these have form of come true. Um, so yeah, that’s form of the best way we grew up.

Mike Sarraille
So typical family, three brothers beating the residing crap out of one another.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah. Youngest of three. Uh, there was a time limit when my dad and mom mentioned you higher watch out, Glen’s gonna get greater than you someday. Uh, and that did occur. Um, however we, you already know, we had the common banter and we’d, we’d, uh, our summers, uh, at our cottage up on the lake, uh, would all the time end in, uh, an annual journey to the hospital with a comparatively catastrophic harm. Um, you already know, uh, whether or not that was, uh, you already know, a battle the place my center brother grabbed the, the Drand nasal spray bottle and simply within the final ditch effort earlier than loss of life jammed it into my oldest, brother’s good eye and squeezed all the kind of bottle of, of nasal spray, uh, rendering him fully blind, um, to, you already know, fish hooks into each a part of the physique, uh, actually and figuratively. Um, you title it. We, we had these sorts of accidents that, that resulted in the long run

Mike Sarraille
Again up one brother took the attention of one other brother. Properly,

Glenn Cowan
It’s a loopy story. My, my, my oldest brother and Scott, I like you, buddy. So I’m gonna throw you beneath the bus right here. Um, he was born, uh, blinded in a single eye, uh, however his eye form of functioned, however he, he might by no means see something coming from the one angle, like, uh, and he would, he would sort out us and pin us down and put all his weight on our biceps after which clear his throat and spit it into our mouth. And that was form of, that was form of the best way he would get his, his revenge. And in order he would really like, dangle just like the Lu, the Lou, my center brother in a final ditch effort of like salvation grabbed, like, you already know, like, like a Aron, like a Aron lover, we name it Tristan or no matter, and similar to jammed it. And it went proper into his good eye and he let go of the entire bottle. So we needed to name poison management and we didn’t have a watch flush. So, you already know, mother races him to the hospital. And this was like a typical occasion on the, you already know, we had one good one a 12 months whereas we had been in the summertime on the cottage. And that, that was certainly one of them.

Mike Sarraille
I, you already know, I all the time thought-about it like preparation for particular operations evaluation and choice. Cuz I used to be the youngest
Glenn Cowan
Being the youngest of brothers is a, is nice choice for positive.

Mike Sarraille
I, my brother beat the residing. My, I’ll say my brother and his mates. Yeah. Beat the residing crap. It was not all completely undeserved. Yeah. I had fairly somewhat mouth once I was little, I imply, however he pushed me off the roof of certainly one of our buildings onto a wooden pile. Oh yeah. And I keep in mind simply messed me up after which he tried to, to hush me up about it in ache. Yeah. We,

Glenn Cowan
We, we might do the identical, you already know, loosen the Lu observe on the entrance wheel of a BMX bike as he goes off a leap and the wheel comes off mid leap and took out all his entrance enamel. , that, that was fairly regular. Yeah.

Mike Sarraille
I, I feel in immediately’s day and age, dad and mom would get referred to as by. I, I don’t know in Canada, for those who guys have baby protecting companies, however no, no. Looks like you may’t do this stuff anymore.

Glenn Cowan
I’m, I’m hyper delicate to it. Now when my, I’ve two ladies and once they battle, I’m like all tremendous delicate. I’m like, are they okay? I’m like, yeah, they’re advantageous. Like take into consideration what we did as a child. I feel they’re simply advantageous.

Mike Sarraille
The women. So at what level did you make the choice to enter the Canadian army?

Glenn Cowan
Thi it is a, that is a straightforward query. Um, and I feel such as you, and we’ve, I’ve been on a few podcasts with Mike, uh, and a bunch of different tier one guys, you already know, from seal staff six and Delta and the STS and that neighborhood and, and, and the frequent theme. I feel there’s one thing simply in our DNA. Uh, I feel there’s a calling that we all know very early that not solely can we wish to be within the army, however we wish to be a particular operator within the army. And I’d, I’d nearly partition these two out cuz there’s one thing distinctive. I feel within the DNA of fellows and ladies like us that wish to do this type of stuff. Uh, for me, uh, once I assume I used to be 15, I went to France and I did a Normandy battlefield tour.

Glenn Cowan
And uh, I walked Juno seashore the place the Canadian storm Normandy, uh, I used to be so moved within the em, the American army cemetery in Omaha. We had been speaking about this the opposite day and, and I, I form of promised myself one, I’m going to do this. And if something like this ever occurs once more, I wanna be part of it. And it was only a calling. And I simply knew, uh, I went to college, uh, in Montreal. I went to college referred to as McGill, which is a, I don’t know the way I acquired in there, however I acquired into McGill. It’s an excellent faculty. Uh, and I joined a reserve unit referred to as the black watch, which is a Scottish Highland, uh, part-time uh, reserve unit to assist put myself by faculty and, and really early on in there, I knew I, I wanted to go to, to particular operations. Um, and so you probably did, and I discovered myself

Mike Sarraille
Is the black watch infantry. What I imply,

Glenn Cowan
What, it’s a, it’s a light-weight infantry unit. Yeah. Mild, mild infantry, but it surely’s, part-time an enormous tradition, uh, Scottish Highland traditions and, um, you already know, put up 9 11, I’d completed a part switch to the common pressure. And I used to be in the correct time and place. And I used to be despatched to a full-time mild infantry battalion within the princess Patricia’s Canadian mild infantry. That was the NATO excessive readiness pressure for Canada instantly after 9 11, we had been connected the primary of the 180 7 brigade fight staff. Yep. Hundred first Radas. And we had been in Afghanistan by January, 2002 as a traditional platoon commander, uh, as inexperienced behind the ears, as you will get. Um,

Mike Sarraille
Did, did you go in as an officer, even throughout school,

Glenn Cowan
Michigan? I, I, I did. And to today, I, I, I preserve form of kicking myself for being an officer <chortle>, you already know, uh, anyway, I, I imply, I say that half joking, half tongue in cheek, however there’s some, some benefit to

Mike Sarraille
It. So the black watch, do you guys put on attire,

Glenn Cowan
Full kilts, kilts motherfucker, kilts motherfucker. Okay. Bag piped into battle excessive first world conflict

Mike Sarraille
Kilts. I feel in America we name them attire, however

Glenn Cowan
Don’t, don’t battle a man in a kilt. There’s the lesson to you. There’s there’s so much. There’s a superb lesson.

Mike Sarraille
So at what level, and I do know, you already know, you talked about we did a podcast collectively. That was, that was one of many mattress pod finest podcast I’ve I I’ve ever completed. That was

Glenn Cowan
An excellent expertise.

Mike Sarraille
I’d, there’ll by no means be one other podcast like that. And for, for the viewers we’ll, we’ll drop the hyperlink. It was a, a choose, uh, season referred to as fact plus tribe in partnership with an important firm fact. Plus media owned by, uh, a gentleman named, uh, Brett Goldberg and, uh, I’m forgetting the well-known coach. He was coach of the, uh, Denver nuggets coach. Carl, thanks. Within the viewers. Uh, George, Carl. Um, however we had your self representing Canada. Yep. Brent Tucker, Brent

Glenn Cowan
Tucker,

Mike Sarraille
A tier one, a tier one. Uh, didn’t say

Glenn Cowan
That. Sorry.

Mike Sarraille
Military soldier, uh, tier one military soldier. My dangerous wealthy Vinney, wealthy Vinney, perhaps tier one soldier and me. Oh, Jason. Uh Magnis we see?

Glenn Cowan
Oh, no, no. Uh, Eric, uh, curly hair wore pink shirt. We sled him for it.

Mike Sarraille
Oh yeah. Air pressure tier one. After which I feel we do we’ve Jason Magnis. Nope. J max. No. No. Okay. And also you, effectively, uh, that was mainly for the 9, 11 twentieth anniversary, proper after the withdrawal of Afghanistan and, and we, it was two components. Go hearken to it. It was, uh, the reflections of troopers that fought just about crossed the 20 12 months conflict, uh, what they’d realized, their ideas.

Glenn Cowan
It was the tenth anniversary of extortion as

Mike Sarraille
Properly. It was the tenth anniversary of extortion 17. Yeah. You had talked about, uh, one of many troopers misplaced throughout operation Anaconda. I feel that’s appropriate from Canada that, that also impacts you to today. And, and also you mentioned drove you to step to the following stage.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah, he was an inspirational, uh, junior non-commissioned chief. His title was mark lege. He was not killed on op Anaconda. He was killed by pleasant fireplace, uh, on a coaching accident the place a us F 16 mistook our forces for enemy and engaged with, I feel a 500 pound GBU. Um, 4 of our guys had been killed. Uh, however mark, uh, I didn’t know him effectively. Uh, he wasn’t in my firm, um, however he had a very profound affect on me as a really junior platoon commander, which is a fairly daunting for any younger, for NCOs that SL officers, for those who flip the script somewhat bit, you don’t know the way nervous a brand new man coming into an infantry battalion is like, you could be fairly formidable to attempt to rise up in entrance of a bunch of seasoned hardened NCOs, and current your self with any form of credibility, um, and form of pretend it until you make it.

Glenn Cowan
And, and mark was, uh, only a actually compassionate, good man. And, and, um, there was only a few occasions and some situations the place he mentioned some very nice issues to me and he didn’t should, and it caught with me and the night time he was killed, uh, it was truly my vary that night time. So we had been speculated to exit. Uh, his firm had acquired a warning order for a mission. They needed to exit and nil their weapons. So, you already know, uh, their firm XO got here throughout and mentioned, Hey, I gotta take your vary. And we form of flagged and mentioned, yeah, you already know, that is bullshit. We’re shedding our vary to you guys. , little like intercompany kind of dynamics. And so I went to the health club and I used to be simply figuring out and I, and I used to be in there, uh, and he was in there. And, uh, I feel the very last thing I mentioned to him was thanks for stealing our vary, have a superb shoot,

Mike Sarraille
You asshole.

Glenn Cowan
And possibly one thing like that. And, and I feel there might need been a fist bump or one thing that was the final I final time we ever had an engagement, like I mentioned, I didn’t know him effectively. Um, however an UN, simply an unbelievable, like he, he was, uh, inspiring to me within the sense that you can, he was an enormous dude, sturdy dude, an extremely revered chief, uh, however had compassion and, and you already know that like, he might fuck you up, however all the time had one thing compassionate and good to say, like he was a superb man. And, and I simply tried to attract somewhat little bit of inspiration from that. Um, I want I knew him higher as a result of he was, he’s the form of individual I’d’ve wished to know higher.

Mike Sarraille
, there’s a number of issues I wish to dissect in, in, in accordance with the, the podcast and kind of our, our pillars and our themes. You you’ve served with some guys which are simply deadly a few of the most deadly individuals on this planet and Devin

Glenn Cowan
Dev. Yeah. Devon devs fairly deadly.

Mike Sarraille
And

Glenn Cowan
You gotta have Devon on this podcast on we’ll, he’ll blow your minds. Yeah.

Mike Sarraille
We’ll and we’ll, we’ll speak about it right here, him right here in somewhat bit, however you already know, I, prone to taking a number of criticism, you already know, there’s a number of comfortable guys on the market which are within the motion pictures that, uh, in comparison with the tier one, guys didn’t do a complete lot. They served their nation and, and I’m not attempting to degrade in a single service, however they constructed this repute typically, like an enormous fish in a small pond, just like the west coast seal groups the place, you already know, they by no means ventured out to take it to the following stage. And on the subsequent stage, I actually, I served within the west coast seal groups. I like my time over there. I beloved the fellows, however once I acquired to the tier one, I actually perceive what it meant to be probably the most deadly warrior, not myself, however watching the fellows that had been, and also you simply mentioned, mark might fuck anybody up. Mark was a, he was a fighter, however

Glenn Cowan
He, he was now, that is once I was in a traditional trade battalion. I

Mike Sarraille
Know. Yeah. Yeah. And even there, and there’s, there’s loads of them. These dudes fought for a motive. That they had a large amount of restraint and probably the most deadly dudes, I knew by no means advised anybody they usually had been empathetic. They had been sort, they had been respectful. And what was most admirable. And I’m, I’m considering of so many guys proper now the place I walked, I watched them stroll out of the bar the place they knew it was gonna be a foul state of affairs. Not for them, for the opposite man. Yep. Opening their mouths. Yeah. And so they simply left.

Glenn Cowan
<chortle> they left? Are we going to the bar battle?

Mike Sarraille
I, I do. I used to be in only a few bar fights. Um, in reality, my, I feel my final scrap was exterior this bar. Uh, and I awoke on the sidewalk. Uh, and that was my realization that, uh, that my time

Glenn Cowan
Was completed. I had a realization a pair years in the past, too, the place I acquired jumped. I used to be with a few guys, we acquired jumped and I used to be put within the hospital and I used to be not in a superb place mentally and, and whatnot. And it was a, it was a get up, however, however we met over a bar battle.

Mike Sarraille
Uh,

Glenn Cowan
We met over a bar

Mike Sarraille
Struggle. See, that is the rationale you don’t have mates on the podcast which have some grime on, however what we’ll get to that story. Um, the opposite factor you mentioned is about being a model new officer, standing in entrance of a bunch of seasoned yeah. Guys and season, perhaps you had three years within the army they usually’re at like 10 or seven or for these listening, I don’t care what your rank is. I don’t care for those who went to school and swiftly are available as a basic supervisor, you can’t rush credibility solely motion

Mike Sarraille
In time. And what I imply by motion is consistency. And following by on what you say you’re gonna do, that’s the solely technique to construct credibility within the eyes of, of your individuals. Yeah. I all the time was. I used to be by no means as outdated as my senior enlisted advisor, by no means had as many deployments as my guys had. And I, I feel it’s pure for everybody desires to hurry credibility and belief. They wanna rush these issues, however they’re the, the one true and tried approach of doing it’s simply carry out every day and ultimately it’ll kill.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah, completely. And, and it’s, and it’s the, it’s the proverbial hen and egg since you, you may’t get the credibility till you’re given the chance. However typically as a younger officer or a brand new officer, whether or not it’s in a traditional platoon, you’re exhibiting as much as a light-weight infantry battalion, or in a tier one unit, you simply haven’t been given the chance. So that you want that point to chop your enamel. And, and, and all of us wish to have the arrogance and we’ve egos and, and like narcissistic tendencies. And we’re like invincible, younger males that simply are fueled by testosterone and we wish to battle, however we additionally wish to like lead effectively and do the correct factor. And I, I imply, it took me a very long time to comprehend one of many necessary classes I realized as a troop commander. And that’s you may’t please, everyone.

Glenn Cowan
No, I’d deploy. We’d have 4 staff leaders, actually superior kind of Sergeant stage staff leaders working, working the battle. I imply, a troop commander has his position within the battle. Group leaders have their position within the battle. Uh, they’re working the battle and these are actually opinionated, alpha males with a number of expertise. And a number of the time they don’t get alongside they usually have totally different opinions about how you need to strategy one thing, however finally because the buck stops with you. So, you already know, when push involves shove, you, you’re the one says, Hey, that is the route we’re going. Yeah. And I attempted too exhausting for too lengthy to verify everybody was form of completely happy versus being like, your concept is horrible. We’re going along with his concept. It’s higher. You’re not, let’s go. And it took me a short time to form of perceive the truth that my resolution making was going to go away 50% of the individuals form of pissed off.

Glenn Cowan
Uh, and, and it, it was a very exhausting consolation to reach at and with my very own confidence to form of hoist that aboard. And by the point I acquired to be a squadron commander, it was simple as a result of I had that confidence. And it took that a few years to form of construct that many operations and deployments and interactions with totally different individuals’s expertise and studying from, you already know, your, your, your non-commission warriors which are truly those who will maintain you up and make you profitable or not profitable based mostly on kind of the way you’re in a position to construct this staff. However it’s their staff. As an officer, we had been all the time simply form of passing by. They held the fork, they’d the integrity of holding groups collectively for years. And we had been simply form of, we had been simply form of renting the seat somewhat bit and passing by.

Glenn Cowan
And, and so it took me somewhat bit, it took me some time to grasp that, after which pivot my management fashion to kind of respect that and perceive that. Um, and so I discovered myself beginning to pay attention a complete lot extra, um, and, and realizing that you would be able to’t please everyone, after which simply be clear and open concerning the context behind why you’re making that call. And it simply comes right down to, for those who’re gonna decide that upsets somebody, inform them the rationale why you’re doing it, give them the out, give them the backstory, give ’em the backstop, give ’em the context. And, and 9 occasions outta 10, in my expertise, uh, they may not have favored your resolution, however they’d no less than have an understanding as to why we had been getting in that sure route.

Mike Sarraille
Yeah. That’s once more, you may’t demand respect. You may solely deserve, you already know, earn respect.

Glenn Cowan
Oh, I, I failed as a real commander so many occasions

Mike Sarraille
I’ll get everybody does there’s

Glenn Cowan
There’s there’s it was

Mike Sarraille
Humbling. There’s no playbook, man.

Glenn Cowan
Humbling.

Mike Sarraille
There’s no playbook, however you already know, as you dissect what it means to be a pacesetter, not everybody’s reduce out to be a pacesetter. Trigger all eyes are on you. They’re second guessing each resolution that you simply make, I imply, it’s a brutal, brutal place. You, you must develop into snug with nearly being alone in a way. I, and other people have requested me like deployed abroad, like, oh, you’re surrounded by 40 of your brothers. I’m like, yeah, completely

Glenn Cowan
Management is a lonely

Mike Sarraille
Place, but it surely’s a real commander. Despite the fact that I’m surrounded by ’em you do should segregate your self in sure points to not compromise your skill to make the exhausting selections. Now, I, I prefer to say this and I like your place. I, I, I speak about selections of what’s finest and what’s proper. And let me break that down. So let’s say it’s it’s effectively, Canada, in the course of the winter, it’s snowing. It’s destructive 30 out. The most effective resolution. The get the one that may make you well-liked with the fellows is, Hey guys, let’s, let’s cancel coaching. Let’s go to the bar. Let’s drink. And the fellows will love you from that. From a reputation standpoint, we

Glenn Cowan
Don’t drink in Canada.

Mike Sarraille
You <chortle> positive. Yeah, positive, buddy.

Glenn Cowan
No, I do know what you’re saying. I do know what you’re saying,

Mike Sarraille
However the correct one is, Hey, we solely have so many coaching evolutions earlier than we return abroad. Yeah. We might study one thing throughout this coaching, which nobody’s gonna be snug in destructive 30. I don’t care what gear you could have, however we’re gonna exit. We’re gonna practice exhausting. Yep. And we’re gonna take it critically. Yeah. And guys will ultimately respect you for that call. Two weeks, one month, six months down the road and a few to your level by no means will, however that’s, that’s, that’s a you or, or the, that’s a them downside.

Glenn Cowan
The final coaching evolution of the night time, when everybody thinks you’re completed and also you’re gonna begin packing it up and then you definitely say, Nope, that wasn’t ok. Run it once more. And it’s like, and you may simply see like, oh

Mike Sarraille
Fuck this

Glenn Cowan
Man. Fuck this man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mike Sarraille
That is true.

Glenn Cowan
Or, or actually exhausting ones like we talked about yesterday. So we’ve been driving round Austin. Uh we’re we’re, we’re filming this from Austin and I’ve been on a chook scooter for every week. It’s been superior. However Mike and I’ve been driving round somewhat bit and um, you already know, we, we talked about, ought to we exit and assist? Is that our job? Are we right here to kill dangerous guys? Are we right here to assist save our coalition forces? , that dialogue, that was a tough one. And that one, that one had some ethical and moral implications into like, what’s our position right here? Will we exit in the midst of the daytime? As a result of we hear on the radio that not too removed from us, there’s a contact and there’s some typical troopers or one other SF staff getting brewed up. They’ve acquired QRF they’ve, you already know, is inserting your self into that battle gonna trigger extra battle or, um, extra confusion. Is it going to, is it gonna harm your guys with the intention to’t exit that night time and truly prosecute the duty that you simply’re requested to prosecute and it, and it create it. I do know it created discussions amongst kind of me and my friends of like, we’re right here to kill these dangerous guys. Properly, no, no, no. We’re right here to kill all of the dangerous guys and shield our guys. And it was only a very ethical and moral and it was a really polarizing dialogue generally.

Mike Sarraille
And I’m not gonna say there’s a proper or flawed reply. There’s not a proper or flawed within the perspective

Glenn Cowan
Although, there’s not a proper or flawed reply to it. Uh, and, and it was simply, however once more, a kind of, like a pacesetter, getting thrust into making some fairly tough selections that had been morally and ethically actually difficult to make, as a result of there’s probably not a proper reply. There’s form of solely a flawed reply. And it’s like, which one of many flawed, which flawed,

Mike Sarraille
It’s much less flawed,

Glenn Cowan
Which one is much less flawed. Um, and anyway, it was, I discovered typically a few of the selections that we had been pressured to make had been precisely that, which one is much less flawed, which one is gonna suck much less, which one is the one you may sleep with or stay with somewhat bit higher than the choice. Does that make sense?

Mike Sarraille
It does man. In, I I’m not gonna lie. There have been positively selections that had been selections by consensus or the, or the, the tribal council, which I I’m, I’m advantageous with some selections, you already know, I’m, I’m keen to advocate that I don’t have to personal it if all the fellows assume that is the correct resolution. If, if I used to be considerably in agreeance, I, I used to be keen to make that call in accordance with what they thought that, that there’s a line there the place, you already know, when do you must stand towards the

Glenn Cowan
No, no, I’m glad you introduced this up as a result of I’ve constructed my enterprise round this precise lesson that I pulled out of conducting operations in Afghanistan. And resolution making comes right down to time and alternative and, and, and danger and understanding danger, however actually time and alternative is the place the, a very powerful lesson that I’ve pulled into my enterprise, we might in our neighborhood. We all the time wished to contain everyone within the plan we wished. We wished purchase in from the, from the, from the fellows that had been going to be doing the enterprise. And if we had time and alternative, we might spend 72 hours intentionally planning, very methodical mission. We’d give as a lot time to the fellows that had to enter the rooms and do the enterprise to construct the plan. There have been some occasions when one thing would spike instantly, and there was no time to plan.

Glenn Cowan
And we needed to say, as a pacesetter, that is the best way we’re doing it. Shut up and get on the helicopter. Completely. Get within the vans. Let’s go. And I feel when, when, and I apply that to my companies now, uh, time and alternative, and once more, in a non-war setting, we should always, we should always assume that we’ve a number of time and alternative the place enterprise is aggressive. Enterprise is ruthless. The clock is ticking. Issues have to occur. Issues all the time occur slower than you need. And so I’ve, I’ve actually taken, uh, the, the idea of let’s not rush to failure. If we’ve time, let’s contain as many alternative stakeholders within the resolution as we will, let’s go to committee let’s, let’s take a vote, let’s do no matter we have to do to get the correct plan. However on the finish of the day, if there’s no time, there’s no democracy. It’s an authoritarian. One resolution maker, the buck stops with me. Let’s go.

Mike Sarraille
In order that goes to management types. And, and there’s not one management fashion. There’s a time to be, let’s say an authoritarian the place time is just not a variable. You have got, there may be time to be in a way politician the place you wish to hear different everybody’s viewpoint, as a result of you could have loads of time that variable and, and also you’ve acquired the time to soak up enter for everybody and see what the very best resolution is for the group. Yeah. What the correct resolution is for the group.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah. It’s powerful. It’s powerful.

Mike Sarraille
Particularly inside our line of labor. Generally you had months, if not weeks to plan for sure operations time, generally it was, we’ve him now let’s go. You could go, go get this man,

Glenn Cowan
Which we’re actually, we used to joke and we’d name that Navy seal battle process. Like,

Mike Sarraille
As a result of we’re that good?

Glenn Cowan
Yeah, no, it’s like, like getting the truck, drive up, do it and get outta there. Like we might joke. It was fairly humorous.

Mike Sarraille
So did you guys mainly use us as just like the mannequin to be

Glenn Cowan
Like, yeah, you guys are wonderful. Cuz seals are like, like nothing, preserve going, nothing dangerous ever occurs in a seal neighborhood. Preserve going. You guys can do no flawed.

Mike Sarraille
, I’m liking this dialog although. Yeah,

Glenn Cowan
Completely. You retain going. You you’ve truly preserve going. You find yourself doing pushups earlier than a podcast and consuming a mimosa with the Navy seals. So

Mike Sarraille
I, I, I gained’t put you within the spot. I do know we’ve had some conversations concerning the seal neighborhood. No,

Glenn Cowan
No,

Mike Sarraille
Not nothing closed doorways. You’ve gotten

Glenn Cowan
The, uh, uh, no, I, I imply, we, actually, we did study so much from, uh, us

Mike Sarraille
Particular operations.

Glenn Cowan
There’s a, uh, to not say that my neighborhood, like I, there’s a, there’s a drastic distinction between Canada and the us. Like we, we will.

Mike Sarraille
One’s superior. And one’s not,

Glenn Cowan
Yeah. And one wins gold medals at hockey and one doesn’t so we’re good. Um, however no, there’s a, there’s a to not say that we don’t have a warrior ethos, however there isn’t a, there may be an aggression, um, that, that I witnessed working alongside each tier one military guys and tier one Navy guys that, that, uh, I imply, we talked about on the final podcast, um, it form of led in, in some ways to somewhat little bit of an imposter syndrome, which, which I’d say comfortably, we had been superb at what we did. Don’t get me flawed. And I beloved the neighborhood I got here out of, however there was a, a, a need to, to get in a scrap, um, that you simply guys are really the masters of once I go world wide and I see what’s taking place geopolitically proper now, we acquired Ukraine, we acquired a rising threats in China.

Glenn Cowan
We acquired a number of know-how form of coming to the forefront of the enterprise scene. We all know, we all know that that, that we, as a Western democratic society can place ourselves very effectively. And other people begin speaking concerning the us. My, my response is, uh, <chortle>, um, by no means again an American right into a nook, cuz you’re gonna come out swinging. And it’s somewhat little bit of a, watch out what you would like for. And I’ve a perspective of with the ability to see, say that from a, a army aspect, a tier one comfortable aspect, a enterprise aspect. Um, and it’s, it’s, uh, you guys could be a ruthless adversary, uh, and it’s and, and a tremendous ally to take an goal with like, it’s actually it’s it’s uh, when the, when the, when the ability of the American machine will get going, it’s spectacular. And I noticed it the primary time on op Anaconda.

Glenn Cowan
We got here in on the again finish to do some little bit of a mop up on the tail finish of Anaconda was referred to as harpoon. And it was the primary time I noticed the sheer shock ina of the us air pressure. As, because the Northern Alliance was pushing Al-Qaeda into kind of the Tobo go. The bunker Buster munitions that had been dropping 24 7 across the clock was like, once more, like to not quote w however like stunning. Aw man. Like I feel certainly one of our guys was most likely taking a shit on a hillside someday. And the over strain from a concussion knocked him over into knocked him again into his personal, you already know, enterprise. And it was hilarious. All of us laughed at him, but it surely was stunning off. I imply, and that’s the one technique to, and it was most likely two kilometers away {that a}, {that a} spherical impacted a goal and we had been getting knocked over.

Glenn Cowan
Like we had been getting hit with earthquakes. It, it was really phenomenal. And, and likewise on a few of the missions we did, we Winchester AC one 30 gunships on a regular basis, and people weren’t Canadian gunships. And we weren’t on the radio with American air pressure personnel that are available and verify in and simply be like, Hey, y’all inform me what you want down there and we’re gonna make it occur. And it was simply probably the most comforting, probably the most comforting voice we’d ever have on a radio. It was, it was really, really, uh, awe-inspiring in some, in lots of regards,

Mike Sarraille
There are critics of how a lot we spend discretionary funding on protection, however I guarantee you, there’s a motive. And people persons are not complaining once we truly deploy it and put it into motion.

Glenn Cowan
We’re seeing it proper now. We’re completely seeing it proper now. I’ve constructed a enterprise capital fund, to not capitalize on this as a result of we’ve been saying it for a few years. Um, conflict and protection spending is an enormous enterprise. It’s an unpleasant enterprise and it’s a nece, uh, mandatory enterprise. We’ve in Canada for instance, most likely probably the most left leaning liberal authorities. It’s a minority authorities. I’m not getting political, however they’re spending effectively in extra that we’ve seen prior to now of a conservative majority authorities, as a result of it it’s a necessity. And when, once we’re not confronted with a few of the threats we’re confronted proper now on this planet, it might afford to develop into political. However when it turns into a necessity, it’s a really, it’s a really nonpartisan dialogue. We want this, we’d like this equipment. We have to outfit our women and men appropriately. We have to put the infrastructure in place and it, and it’s truly, uh, a very optimistic non nonpartisan view, which is totally counterculture, which is frightening as a result of it truly goes to indicate there’s a severe existential menace proper now that we’ve gotta take fairly critically.

Mike Sarraille
It it’s loopy that individuals will say that conflict is just not a mandatory factor. It’s nearly like saying evil will at some point not exist on this earth. Evil will all the time exist. There’ll all the time be a necessity. We’ll all the time be at conflict with, with some type of evil, someplace on this planet proper now, you already know, for the final 20 years, it was worldwide terrorism, which nonetheless exists. Yep. And proper now it’s the aggression of Russia towards the EU Ukraine.

Glenn Cowan
And I’d add the third, most important and largest menace is a rising China that’s going to problem the US for international atomy international dominance hedge on me. I can’t keep in mind. I don’t, no matter we acquired it. And we’re gonna see, we’re gonna see make no mistake. What’s enjoying out in Ukraine. And our responses as a Western democratic

Mike Sarraille
Is a pre-game for,

Glenn Cowan
If you happen to don’t assume the Chinese language are sitting again and watching that response in relation to what they could do in Taiwan, you’re very naive. You’re very naive and this, and, and, and, uh, it’s a really scary dialogue. Um, and it’s one which we’ve to take very critically. And, and I’ve been concerned once more as a civilian. I’ve been behind extra, most likely extra, no overseas shut maintain discussions as a metropolis than I used to be as a tier one squadron commander.

Mike Sarraille
What, what 12 months did you come into the army?

Glenn Cowan
Uh, 98,

Mike Sarraille
Similar 12 months I got here into the us army. Yeah, it’s humorous. Cuz when in that period, previous to 9 11, we had been research learning Russian armor. Yeah. We had been getting ready for the following subsequent conflict with Russia.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah.

Mike Sarraille
It, it’s amazingly. I imply it’s astonishing how dangerous they’re. It’s. I imply, we, for thus lengthy we thought the Russian army was so, a lot extra superior and competent. It’s it it’s comedic. Is it how dangerous they, they, they

Glenn Cowan
Are. Is it that? Or is it simply present that one man with a javelin missile can cease a 40 mile lengthy

Mike Sarraille
J T 72

Glenn Cowan
T 72 column as a result of it’s insane. And as I advised you, we acquired an organization that we’re working with proper now that actually has a Harry Potter visibility cloak and towards a T 80 thermal website, this a javelin gunner or a dude with a 3 38 or a 50 Cal rifle is invisible and they’ll wreak havoc on an armored column. It’s it’s thoughts blowing. So is it that, or is it techniques have modified? It’s not world conflict II tank on tank warfare. Like I don’t know the correct reply to that, however what’s taking place in Ukraine is giving us somewhat little bit of an image as to what the way forward for warfare appears like.

Mike Sarraille
There, there’s a part that, Hey, I’d by no means want my, my son or daughter go to conflict. I’d by no means want that on anyone son or daughter. I, I do know you and I didn’t thoughts that. Um, and that’s what we, we, in a way signed up for and we had been ready for it and we knew the outcomes. We knew the implications, however there’s something to say how good the us, the British, the Canadians, the Australians have gotten over the past 20 years? How, how good they’ve gotten that conflicts of preventing these conflicts from not solely the techniques to the logistics, to the evolution in know-how and, and gear. I imply, we, we’ve a number of company information now that the Russians and Chinese language simply don’t have, yeah, we don’t have the iterations. It comes right down to iterations. So

Glenn Cowan
100% agree, however I’ll play satan’s advocate to that too. Whereas we had been doing that and getting actually good, not withstanding the Russians, however the Chinese language weren’t doing that. Are you aware

Mike Sarraille
What they, they had been shopping for every thing.

Glenn Cowan
Are you aware what

Mike Sarraille
They had been doing? Shopping for every thing in

Glenn Cowan
Inside. They had been, they had been constructing the thousand abilities program. They had been penetrating each fortune 500 firm within the us with, with insiders which are stealing mental property. And we all know that to be true. They’re not silly. They’re, they’re transferring in direction of financial warfare, mental property theft kind warfare, cyber warfare knowledge, privateness warfare, future conflict is gonna play out very in another way. And we’ve had had an important dialogue. I, I met, I met, uh, for a fast byte the opposite night time, uh, a senior NCO from military tier one unit in Fort Bragg, like, uh, and we had that dialogue of like, had been we actually at conflict within the final 20 years? Or did we simply, you already know, deploy and conduct actually excessive pace tier one kind direct motion concentrating on missions the place we weren’t preventing a close to peer adversary. And, and what we’re seeing proper now’s preventing a close to peer adversary

Mike Sarraille
Is so much totally different scale of conflict is, is so much totally different. I’ll give

Glenn Cowan
You that. And, and I don’t wanna say that we weren’t in fight and we weren’t engaged in a battle, but it surely simply, it leads prefer it it’s led me to form of begin fascinated by like, what is definitely enjoying out now? What’s the subsequent battle seem like? And I feel if we begin drawing a few of these classes that we’ve realized out of Iraq and Afghanistan is attempting to use it to an armored column. We would wanna begin rethinking how we’re doing it as a result of it’s a totally totally different beast. It’s a totally totally different enemy. It’s a totally totally different goal set. Now a backstop that with the truth that we’ve acquired actually in incre unbelievable guys and ladies actually good, you set some cool shit, you set some cool stuff into their palms they usually’re gonna determine find out how to win with it. And in order that I’m, that I’m very assured in that, that what we put ahead within the subsequent battle is gonna do exactly in addition to a few of our forces did form of collectively over the past 20 years within the international conflict on terror.

Mike Sarraille
Properly, we’re gonna take a mid-roll break right here, however earlier than we do, we ask a, a number of key questions, first off, greatest remorse of your life to this point.

Glenn Cowan
Oh man, uh,

Mike Sarraille
I’m being born Canadian.

Glenn Cowan
I’m residing it proper now. Um, I would truly preserve that one to myself. Um, but it surely’s, I’m residing it. Um,

Mike Sarraille
Higher query for an additional time.

Glenn Cowan
Uh, no, it’s, I feel not, uh, not being as sincere, I feel I, I’m a, I’ve realized so much prior to now 12 months and, um, transparency and honesty and integrity, um, and studying, studying find out how to stay in a put up

Mike Sarraille
Screw up

Glenn Cowan
Kind of civilian approach. It’s simply been a very fascinating, however I feel greatest remorse of my life as a theme can be, um, most likely at occasions misrepresenting who I’m or attempting to, uh, not name it as I see it as clearly. And as actually, and as transparently as I most likely ought to have. And there’s many examples. So if we had been to place them beneath a theme that might, that might be it transparency, integrity, and honesty, and, and, uh, defaulting to a worry based mostly sense of resolution making versus making selections from the center.

Mike Sarraille
That’s most likely probably the most sincere solutions we’ve had. Everybody places their finest face ahead, their finest public picture ahead. Everybody has a lapse in integrity. Everybody has a lapse in honesty that that’s the fact. That proper there may be the reality, however folks that attempt to play the sport of like, effectively, I’m, you already know, I’ll by no means inform a lie that’s to me that I’m like, that’s bullshit. That’s bullshit.

Glenn Cowan
I, I’ve realized this 12 months that, uh, within the final greater than 12 months, previous couple of years, uh, worry is the other of affection. You may’t go flawed for those who lead with love.

Mike Sarraille
That’s

Glenn Cowan
An excellent one. And, um, you actually, for those who inform the reality and lead with love, you may’t go flawed. There isn’t any flawed reply. Uh, and I I’ve actually have completed a number of self-reflection and analysis on a number of these issues and, and worry conjures up ego, selfishness, worry, nervousness, despair, um, and worry is the other of affection. So lead with love, and also you’re most likely gonna take your life selections, friendships, relationships, to a different stage within the, within the route that’s simply good for everyone.

Mike Sarraille
Nice reply once more. Um, hardest resolution that you simply’ve ever needed to make.

Glenn Cowan
I, I labored for a commander <chortle> and I exploit this line so much, uh, and I form of tongue in cheek, however, um, within the resolution as to whether or not we needed to prosecute a goal and kill a man, it was, it was a more durable resolution as as to whether or not we had been gonna put onions on our cheeseburger. That’s how clear the choice was. And I used that. I used that form of, uh, as a tongue in cheek, uh, kind of reply once I take into consideration this resolution, hardest resolution I needed to make, um, uh, most likely, uh, placing myself able of serious vulnerability over, uh, a difficulty of integrity and I’ll go away it at that.

Mike Sarraille
Adore it, find it irresistible. Okay. We’re gonna take a few three minute break and we might be proper again with Glen Cowan, former JTF, two operator and founding father of one 9, the most important protection fund in Canada. We’re again with Glen Cowan, former JTF, two operator. If you happen to don’t know what that’s, it’s in Canada. I don’t assume anybody cares. Um, I most likely simply upset our complete males

Glenn Cowan
Journal. It’s it’s a very good hockey staff that does some particular operations generally

Mike Sarraille
For, for Canada. If there are any Canadians within the bar, I apologize entrance, you guys are good to go. I simply give Glen it’s a wholesome rivalry.

Glenn Cowan
It’s a it’s good. Properly

Mike Sarraille
It’s. So in all, you already know, the

Glenn Cowan
Most bloody recreation of hockey that I’ve ever witnessed or seen or heard about was a ball hockey recreation between my neighborhood and a neighborhood at Fort Bragg. And it was the most likely probably the most bloody recreation of ball hockey I’ve ever seen. It was superior. Who,

Mike Sarraille
Who wins within the us, Canada hockey. That’s how carefully I comply with hockey,

Glenn Cowan
Uh, Canadian girls’s hockey is on the rise. I’m the proud hockey dad of two younger ladies that, um, watching the rise of ladies’s hockey, uh, and the, and the rivalry in sports activities that’s going down. Now between Canada girls’s hockey and American girls’s hockey is unbelievable for anybody. Who’s a sports activities fan. If you happen to’re not following that rivalry, it’s most likely among the finest ones. It’s wonderful hockey. It’s ruthless. It’s brutal. It’s cutthroat, and it’s going all the best way right down to 10 years outdated. These ladies go into the rink, they’ve acquired their stuffies beneath their arm. They’re sporting their little hugs, their little observe fits, they acquired their bunnies, after which they arrive out they usually go on the ice they usually kill one another. And

Mike Sarraille
Then simply shoulder checks simply lame

Glenn Cowan
Every out within the locker room, they paint whiskers, after which they get their bunnies they usually go for a play date. It’s the cutest factor I’ve ever seen. And once they’re on the ice, you, I, I shit. You not, you’ll assume you’re watching like div one girls’s hockey, uh, it’s unbelievable stage of competitors. I’m so impressed by seeing younger ladies be empowered and actually get on the ice and go away all of it on the market. It

Mike Sarraille
A very are a number of the Canadian universities. Do they now have girls’s hockey groups? The place are they given scholarships?

Glenn Cowan
Canadian girls’s hockey within the universities is a good caliber of hockey. The truth of, once more, the Canadian American dynamic to which, uh, the, the, the aim, if you wish to say aim or the very best stage that our ladies can compete at exterior of Olympic nationwide staff stage can be to be, uh, drafted or get given a scholarship to a div one American faculty. Uh, and that’s form of the place these ladies, even at 10 and 12 are beginning to be recruited for, uh, and, and groomed into a few of these roles. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s one thing else. And I, and it’s the mother present, uh, males aren’t allowed within the locker rooms that, which I feel is wonderful, even from kind of seven years outdated and up dads aren’t allowed in. So it’s the mother present and it’s the den mothers that, that run, run the hockey for these ladies and, they usually put a lot into it. And it’s actually, it’s actually unbelievable to see.

Mike Sarraille
Dude, I’ve little doubt,

Glenn Cowan
Sorry. That’s my hockey plug.

Mike Sarraille
No, no. I’ve little doubt having labored out with Anika. I used to be in ache for every week and a half having labored out with Tim Kennedy. It was like that good soreness, just like the delayed onset soreness, no matter it’s referred to as DOMs. Yep. I, I felt advantageous after a number of days Anicka messed me up, however I haven’t run round a observe in 10 plus years.

Glenn Cowan
Years. Simply, simply so I had, I’ve had some nice discussions with Anika. Um, I feel there’s some enterprise synergies that a few of the issues that we’re constructing from a know-how perspective for human efficiency can actually assist her with she’s. Um, a staff can observe and discipline athlete. She’s the pole vaulter. Um, and, and, uh, yeah, I imply, I didn’t work out along with her. We’ve simply had a few conversations about how we might leverage human efficiency applied sciences to perhaps assist her podium in, in Paris in 2024. Um, however yeah, no, I might, I don’t wanna work out along with her. No, I don’t wanna work out with Tim Kennedy both I’d chew his ankles or one thing

Mike Sarraille
And attempt to he’s beast. He and his complete crew are beast. I’ll I’ll, I’ll give him that, man. Um, so I, I offer you a tough time. I give Canada a tough time. I like Canada. It’s good. I feel it’s value mentioning that each 11 November, which we in America seek advice from as veterans day, which let’s be sincere to you about 95% of Individuals is simply one other vacation off yeah. Is named remembrance day. Appropriate. In Canada. Yep. And I truly head as much as Ottawa, which once more, I seek advice from as your Washington DC, the place the conflict Memorial is, um, the place your parliament is.

Glenn Cowan
Yep. It’s, it’s referred to as the capital metropolis of a G seven nation, however that’s,

Mike Sarraille
There, there, there you go. I’m educating some individuals. Yeah. Not many individuals can title the, the capital of Canada, however I I’ve spent most of my November eleventh. Yeah. In Ottawa since 2014, which is once we,

Glenn Cowan
After we met at a bar on remembrance day, which is form of what you do, you, we collectively, uh, actually have a good time, uh, our veterans. And, and I imply, sure, I’m a veteran, however I imply like our veterans, I imply just like the technology of women and men that fought in world conflict I and world conflict II, uh, and the Korean conflict. Um, and that’s actually, you already know, there’s a, yeah, it’s a statutory vacation. Uh, however the nation stops at 11, 11 second of silence. And in Ottawa, proper within the downtown core is the nationwide conflict Memorial. There’s a large parade, uh, most likely 100 thousand individuals attend, uh, in non COVID occasions anyway. Uh, and there’s an superior little pub proper beside the nationwide conflict Memorial and my mates, colleagues, friends, people from my neighborhood form of migrate and take over that pub. Uh, and it’s kind of, as quickly because the 21 gun salute stops put up Armas and the, the laying on the wreath begin.

Glenn Cowan
So does the consuming. And it’s a very nice time to interrupt bread with warriors, uh, within the put up Afghan, uh, kind of battle. We pay a number of respect, very early on to our mates and colleagues that we misplaced in that conflict. Um, and it’s a solemn day, but it surely’s additionally a little bit of a celebration. Um, and so we actually have a good time our conflict useless as a result of it affords us the flexibility to stay within the society we stay in. And it’s superior. Uh, and, and, um, yeah, so we met on the bar on a remembrance day in what? 20 14, 14, 20 14 magic Mike got here,

Mike Sarraille
Maintain on, maintain on, maintain

Glenn Cowan
On. So now

Mike Sarraille
A mutual pal of ours who mutual pal doesn’t must be named.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah. He’s nonetheless serving. He’s good. I truly bumped into him in east Easter egg hunt. The opposite love him.

Mike Sarraille
He’s beloved

Glenn Cowan
Him, dude. Yeah, no, we, we like, and he was wanting good. He’s sporting aviators, slick again hair. And our, our daughters had been trying to find Easter eggs within the park. And, and I hadn’t seen him in years and I advised him, I advised him I used to be coming down right here to hang around with Elli and he simply shook his head and he’s like, oh fuck boys. Like <chortle>

Mike Sarraille
In, in to, to play true to this stereotype. His, his accent is

Glenn Cowan
He’s, he’s dangerous. He’s, he’s not French Canadian, however he’s acquired a superb, he’s acquired a,

Mike Sarraille
He’s acquired the, the nice accent. However he, he satisfied me once we had been each serving collectively to come back as much as, uh, Ottawa. So I booked flights. He’s like, you bought to put on your uniform. Yeah. And I, I, on

Glenn Cowan
Remembrance day put on your uniform.

Mike Sarraille
I, I stored pushing again cuz that meant I must shave. And he, I imply, he, I caved to him. He’s like, simply put on your uniform. Belief me. Trigger I’m freshly divorced

Glenn Cowan
Of which none of us put on our uniform on.

Mike Sarraille
Keep in mind no in

Glenn Cowan
Our

Mike Sarraille
Group, I didn’t also have a retirement ceremony. They’re like, Hey, let’s do your retirement ceremony. I’m like, no, I’ll be at a bar. Simply convey my paperwork. And that’s what we did. However

Glenn Cowan
Yeah. So we met you and I hit it off. I feel on the bar we acquired alongside fairly effectively.

Mike Sarraille
And also you had been in uniform.

Glenn Cowan
I used to be in uniform within the morning. I used to be, I

Mike Sarraille
Assume you began consuming at what? Like 9:00 AM.

Glenn Cowan
Most likely about 9:00 AM. Yeah. Uh, I like on that day I form of gravitate in direction of Guinness. I don’t know why, however um, I feel I took my children dwelling. I feel they had been on the ceremony with me. I took them dwelling. I acquired outta uniform and I got here again to the bar. Um, and once more, it’s most likely 11 O no 11 o’clock is the ceremony time. However most likely say one o’clock, everybody’s form of feeling no ache by one. O’clock, it’s a very, a number of bro hugs, a number of excessive fives, a number of like drop pint glasses. And, um, it’s an important, it’s a, it’s my it in a bizarre approach. It’s form of certainly one of my favourite days of the 12 months. It’s impacted me extra lately as I’ve mirrored extra and gotten smarter about issues. I discover it extra of an emotional day. Um, I had probably the most impactful remembrance days final 12 months alone. And it was, it was actually impactful, however the 12 months we met, um, oh boy, oh 5. Are we gonna inform, are we gonna okay. We’ll we’ll keep in mind preface

Mike Sarraille
I’ll preface. Keep in mind my children hearken to this.

Glenn Cowan
So I’ll preface this by saying I gained’t let the reality get in the best way of a superb story. Uh, main as much as that remembrance day, there had been a spate of stolen valor, uh, social media posts

Mike Sarraille
In Canada. And

Glenn Cowan
Even that morning, there

Mike Sarraille
Was a pair and clarify what stolen valley is so

Glenn Cowan
Stolen, stolen valor is, um,

Mike Sarraille
Mainly individuals claiming metals that they by no means earned or, or fight that, that they by no means noticed. Yeah.

Glenn Cowan
However we even noticed like, non-service folks that have by no means served sporting like full airborne regiment regalia and like maroon Berets. And like, it actually regarded such as you form of assembled a fancy dress, um, to misrepresent army service to your personal private recreation. I don’t know what going to Starbucks and have them purchase you a espresso or thanks to your service or no matter, who is aware of what, or simply their very own delusional kind of self a randomization. Um, there had been a number of that main as much as that remembrance day. And so right here, magic Mike, as he turned recognized after today, uh, reveals as much as the bar sporting Navy sealed gown blues. Is that what you name them?

Mike Sarraille
Uh, they’re Navy nest gown blues. Yeah.

Glenn Cowan
Gown, gown, gown, blues, Navy, gown blues. Um, and Individuals, not like in Canada, such as you get a steel, if you are able to do 20 pushups. <chortle> so

Mike Sarraille
Like, not fairly my pal, however sure, we,

Glenn Cowan
We maintain our honors and awards to a really excessive commonplace, whereas, you already know, yeah. You may run a, you may run a mile in eight minutes, you get a medal solar. Um, and, and so Mike being match, you already know, has an astronomical quantity of metals and ribbons and simply shit that he, you already know, uh, is sporting on his uniform.

Mike Sarraille
That, that I most likely didn’t earn.

Glenn Cowan
Uh, I don’t know. I feel you are able to do 20 pushups. I feel you earned it. Um, because the day goes on, you already know, the ties develop into looser. The shirt’s unbutton somewhat bit. Uh, the, the, the celebration ended up gravitating in direction of, uh, certainly one of our, we name them leg, effectively, you most likely name them legions.

Mike Sarraille
We, we name them. I keep in mind you guys are like, Hey, to go to love the Legion. I’m like, you wanna Legion. And I’m like, in my thoughts, I’m considering the American VFW within the American Legion or no matter they’re they’re referred to. And I’m like, no person ever goes there to drink. They, I keep in mind you satisfied me. You’re like, no, it’s low cost. You wanna go, belief me. It’s like, it’s the following half? Low cost,

Glenn Cowan
Low cost beers go to the Legion. And so we gravitated to the Legion and I dunno, we’re most likely into the night. Now. Everyone may be very effectively lubricated. And there was a bunch of reserve troopers who’re nice guys. I used to be a reserve soldier. The, the, the reserves and the militia structuring Alicia construction in Canada is a very proud heritage. It’s superior. There’s a number of actually nice issues. So once I say reserve troopers, I don’t imply that to sound too degrading. Yeah. However they’re not staff six operators. Okay. And so they, I feel of their kind of honoring the pleasure of the day, questioned the man sporting the uniform, that they didn’t acknowledge as a stolen valor uniform. So about 4 or 5 guys began enjoying poke chest with outdated magic Mike being like,

Mike Sarraille
Maintain on. I, I keep in mind I used to be off on my own speaking to a, a girl. Yeah. And we had been speaking to one another and people 4 guys came visiting and, and,

Glenn Cowan
And began calling him out. How dare you, the place that uniform in our con in our Legion on today, stolen valor motherfucker, you title it, pokey, chest 50 caliber finger bang, bang, bang. And so they checked out his Navy seal, tried and began calling him out on it. And it simply didn’t compute like Mike’s mind, wasn’t computing. Like what do you, what do you imply? What do you imply? Like, I’m a, I’m a stolen valor man. Like it is a fucking Navy seal tried. And it escalated to the purpose the place I feel Mike is perhaps the one individual within the historical past of the seal groups to take his tried and off his uniform and use it as a ninja star and, uh, threw it. <chortle> threw it on this fucking man.

Mike Sarraille
I simply snort it

Glenn Cowan
Earlier than this all brawl form of kicked off. Um, as a result of we had been attempting to downplay it, however we weren’t in uniform. So these guys didn’t actually know kind of our load station. We’re like, guys, he’s with us. He’s good. Like, we’ll fuck you too. And you already know what a bunch of fellows fueled on booze on, on an emotionally charged day appears like anyway, Mike used his tried and as an ninja star, uh, and, and one, a fairly epic bar battle. I’ll offer you that. I’ll offer you that.

Mike Sarraille
Right here’s what I keep in mind. One, we had been consuming since 9:00 AM. Yeah. This time it’s round 9:00 PM and I’m not a drinker. I, at this level I used to be not a drinker. I, I I’d been on a alcohol kick for like two years, most likely one of many, the very best form in my life. And when these 4 guys got here there was, there was a hallway that led to the grander room. After which that led to the steps. I do not forget that portion, that portion of the room turned so crowded with individuals. Yeah. That it was a full on brawl. It was a brawl. I couldn’t even elevate my palms as a result of some man had grabbed me and the opposite man was punching me within the face. I keep in mind threatening that man’s life. As soon as my palms are free, I’m going to kill

Glenn Cowan
You. Yeah.

Mike Sarraille
Yeah. I imply, it’s constructed, it went all the best way down the steps all the best way exterior the

Glenn Cowan
Legion. It was a superb one.

Mike Sarraille
Uh, Ottawa police, um, confirmed up. I, I keep in mind I had,

Glenn Cowan
Which half of them are former unit members. So we, we all the time form of err on the aspect, we all the time find yourself on the nice aspect of that. However yeah,

Mike Sarraille
I keep in mind I had like one row of ribbons left. Yeah. And I, I took them off and I, I threw them

Glenn Cowan
Such as you and no tried.

Mike Sarraille
You forgot these you motherfuckers

Glenn Cowan
And no tried.

Mike Sarraille
I feel I mentioned the phrases America. And, uh, you probably did, then the cops got here.

Glenn Cowan
She truly mentioned America, like, for those who couldn’t, you may’t make this shit up. Um,

Mike Sarraille
I by no means discovered the woman what’s that I by no means discovered the woman.

Glenn Cowan
I don’t

Mike Sarraille
Know. I by no means discovered her.

Glenn Cowan
I don’t know. She’s most likely nonetheless on the Legion. <chortle> um, the following morning, one of many different guys that was in our unit knew the fellows that accosted Mike and mentioned, do you guys have any concept what you probably did and to their credit score, uh, they returned your Trident. They discovered it. They returned your Trident with a, an apology letter. <chortle> uh, as typical can, Canadians are actually good at saying, sorry. Um, and so with an apology letter, um, and, and I’ll go away this story there, but it surely’s gone on to develop into a little bit of an city legend, uh, between form of gold squadron and one squadron. And, and, uh, I’ll simply go away it there to, to respect the inner cultures of the best way that we work together as squadron a squadron. I’ll go away it there.

Mike Sarraille
Properly, I keep in mind you guys referred to as and also you’re like, Hey, we acquired your Trium again. Give us your deal with. We’re gonna ship it. I, I did say I’m like pounded into your bar.

Glenn Cowan
You guys, we didn’t give the Trident again to you. We’ve the Trident.

Mike Sarraille
Yeah, no. I, I mentioned pounded into the bar, do no matter you need with it. It’s

Glenn Cowan
We’ve the Trident and I’ll go away it. I’ll go away the story at that.

Mike Sarraille
Yeah. It’s um, however I’ve been again to Ottawa a number of occasions for keep in mind day. Now that COVID is off. I, I intend to be again this November. If Canada has not blocked me.

Glenn Cowan
No, no, you’re good. And we’ve a very we’ve, we’ve acquired some thrilling initiatives on the go and I feel we’re going to, uh, we’re gonna do a remembrance day skydive in Ottawa.

Mike Sarraille
So let let’s, so to anybody listening to all my Canadian brothers, once more, I’m joking. Any Individuals, uh, what’s the drop zone in Ottawa? November tenth, we are going to orchestrate this come be part of. Yeah.

Glenn Cowan
I imply, we’re gonna verify for climate, however we’ve acquired, we’ve acquired assist from the drop zone. It’s referred to as parachute Ottawa run by, uh, mobility labs that’s closely aligned with CPS and the, that we’ve on some

Mike Sarraille
Fred Williams,

Glenn Cowan
Among the different initiatives we’re engaged on the skydive entrance, uh, I’ll entrance the cash for, for what we have to do to run, to lease the aircraft. I’ll pay for the entire thing. Um, we’re gonna lease a sky van. We’re gonna fill it with serving nons serving members of our neighborhood. And our aim can be to do form of like a sundown leap over the Ottawa river on a remembrance day previous to happening for the ceremony. However we’ll, we’ll let climate kind of dictate. Uh, so tenth, eleventh, Ottawa, a tenth, eleventh of November. Uh, we’ll attempt to pull that off. Um,

Mike Sarraille
Hell sure.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah, man. We’ll do it. It’s it’ll be actually, it’ll be nice. And we’ll have enjoyable doing it. We

Mike Sarraille
We’ll, we are going to get Fred Williams. I’ll get Nick Kush. I’ll speak to Andy stump. We’ll we’ll attempt to stack the deck with the staff. Yeah. And I don’t wanna point out what we acquired proper now. No, the

Glenn Cowan
Group, the staff on the, the challenge staff. Yeah. Yeah. We’ll convey the challenge staff. I’d like to convey a few of our, our, uh, serving and veteran operators that wish to take part. I do know there’s a number of guys I’ve been speaking to which are tremendous into it. Um, and we’ll simply go and have a, a enjoyable skydive, uh, after which go downtown and honor the remembrance day traditions and, and, uh, see the place it goes. Hopefully God, who is aware of we not in jail. We

Mike Sarraille
Would possibly, we might discover the fellows that costed me.

Glenn Cowan
We would discover them. I feel we should always. And I’ll, you already know, I feel we should always invite them. So I do know, I do know who you, I do know your title. So that you’re invited please come and have a bro hug with magic Mike and, and, and, and toast a beer and, and hang around on reremember day. This 12 months, it’ll

Mike Sarraille
Be advantageous. I’ll shake the, the hand 100% of the man who hit me whereas I used to be being held

Glenn Cowan
Hundred occasions 100%.

Mike Sarraille
Um, effectively, Glen, uh, these conversations, man. I find it irresistible, dude. You, you might be brother. Um, we’ve acquired a lot extra forward of us, particularly with this challenge. I imply, challenge,

Glenn Cowan
We’ve acquired an thrilling challenge.

Mike Sarraille
Um, so we

Glenn Cowan
Finish this. We’ll do one other podcast on the tail finish of

Mike Sarraille
It. Oh yeah. We’ll with all the staff. With the

Glenn Cowan
Group. Yeah.

Mike Sarraille
And with Dan Myrick, one author, director, producer of the Blair witch challenge.

Glenn Cowan
He’s gonna inform you the challenge proper now. No, I’m not gonna,

Mike Sarraille
He mentioned, don’t speak about

Glenn Cowan
Venture. And

Mike Sarraille
He’s like Dan Merick and Christian who’re concerned. I spotlight Meyer each of them, however they’re, they’re in for this challenge to doc it.

Glenn Cowan
It’s, it’s an audacious, daring, uh, it’s an audacious, daring plan that we will pull off.

Mike Sarraille
Have you ever seen the Blair want challenge? Have you ever watched that?

Glenn Cowan
I can’t. It makes me like queasy, man. This, the digital camera’s transferring round an excessive amount of. I can’t watch it, but it surely scare. I, the half I did scared the shit outta me.

Mike Sarraille
In order that’s the factor. It’s the one movie the place I used to be uncomfortable.

Glenn Cowan
It’s uncomfortable.

Mike Sarraille
It, the, the flexibility for that man to, to, and for those who didn’t know, the Blair witch challenge set a file for lowest manufacturing finances, highest grossing movie within the historical past of the world.

Glenn Cowan
And, and we’re gonna spend seven days on an Airbus collectively. So is that I’m gonna be, is that like, I’m gonna be uncomfortable as effectively. We have to

Mike Sarraille
Do, do we have to watch Dan? Like is Dan cursed? I

Glenn Cowan
Don’t know. We’ll see.

Mike Sarraille
Okay.

Glenn Cowan
Properly, we’ll see.

Mike Sarraille
Earlier than we shut this out and we are going to, once more, for these listening, uh, November eleventh, we might be organising a leap open to the general public. In fact, everybody. Properly

Glenn Cowan
Open to the variety of individuals that may match the

Mike Sarraille
Sky you match. Sure. Uh, hopefully we will get like a C one 30 or one thing. Nah,

Glenn Cowan
Gained’t

Mike Sarraille
Occur. Not gonna occur. Properly, no, there’s non-public C one 30 S by no means know. I’m not,

Glenn Cowan
I’m not gonna fund that a lot. <chortle> yeah. Okay, positive. We’ll gotta C one 30. Right here we go. Thanks. You’re going for a sky, man.

Mike Sarraille
Properly, you bought a factor it’s huge. That is the man who’s gotta go huge.

Glenn Cowan
Let’s go huge. Okay. Let’s go

Mike Sarraille
Massive. So we are going to, we are going to get data out that no less than no less than a month or two months earlier than it occurs. Yeah, buddy. And once more, I don’t even know if I’m allowed in Canada, so that you’re gonna have to tug. You’re good.

Glenn Cowan
Okay. I acquired you. All proper. I’ve acquired an important relationship on the us embassy proper now that you simply’re gonna be simply advantageous

Mike Sarraille
And ship my finest to Justin trau.

Glenn Cowan
<chortle> oh, God, assist us all. Oh man. I,

Mike Sarraille
I feel,

Glenn Cowan
I feel he’s professional you already know what? I feel he’s most likely an important man to have a beer with.

Mike Sarraille
I I’m positive he

Glenn Cowan
Is. I don’t assume Putin takes him very critically. Put it that approach. All proper.

Mike Sarraille
Properly, we shut this with a further two questions. First one. What makes you cry? And often we don’t let our company go away till we see some tears.

Glenn Cowan
You had me earlier. I simply was okay at holding it again. All proper.

Mike Sarraille
How are you gonna measure whether or not you’ve lived a superb life, an impactful life?

Glenn Cowan
Uh, that, that’s the best. That’s a better reply than whether or not or not I’m gonna put onions on my cheeseburger. Um, I <affirmative>, um, if my, I’ve three lovely blonde ladies in my life, and in the event that they take a look at me and say, I’m happy with you, fucking mic drop I’m out. Yeah. That’s it. That’s it. And, and, and I feel two outta three are, I feel I acquired two outta three proper now, so let’s, you already know, we’ll see the place it goes. <chortle>

Mike Sarraille
That’s a superb one, man. Yeah, that, that’s a superb one.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah.

Mike Sarraille
What are these one to 3 key tenants? These non-negotiables that you simply stay your life by that which have led to your success kind of?

Glenn Cowan
Uh, they’ve come about very lately. Can that, can that work?

Mike Sarraille
That, that, no, no, no. That’s truly

Glenn Cowan
Fascinating. It, it it’s been a, a comparatively latest revelation. Uh, and, and I form of knew you had been gonna ask this. So I considered it somewhat bit, however then as I considered it, it got here on in a short time. Um, assume huge, like assume huge after which assume huge after which assume fucking greater and 100 X the place you assume you’re gonna go. And, and, and also you, I’ve had these discussions this week and we’ve.

Mike Sarraille
Yeah. Did you, you and for, for the viewers, you assume huge,

Glenn Cowan
I feel huge, even,

Mike Sarraille
Even my spouse, we, all of us had dinner. It was the primary time you guys met. She’s like, you want to assume like Glen and I’m like, I I’m simply not at that stage, dude.

Glenn Cowan
No. I feel, I feel huge and contact wooden. We’re form of making that occur and it’s actually humbling to see that like, um, however assume huge. After which once you assume you’re huge go 10 X, what you assume you’re considering? Um, the second is, uh, simply inform the reality, man, like lies are poisonous, whether or not they’re little white lies or huge issues, like simply inform the fucking fact in life. Um, and, and, and form of like main with love. You may’t go flawed. Uh, you’ll by no means be flawed for those who inform the reality.

Mike Sarraille
Hey, ho, maintain on. In a single factor, I’ve all the time mentioned, this, individuals have mentioned, Hey, effectively, how do you lead within the army? And I’ve, I’ve mentioned, as a result of perhaps we’ve had this dialog as we lead by love. And I speak about accountability. Yeah. And like truly holding your children accountable is the very best type of compassion that there’s cuz you need them to develop into competent, good human beings that contribute to society, which suggests you must educate them and maintain them accountable.

Glenn Cowan
Yeah. I feel accountability and I’ve failed on accountability. So many occasions

Mike Sarraille
Self accountability as effectively. Yeah.

Glenn Cowan
Self-accountability like, and it, and it provides up like, similar to you may’t go flawed. I’ve truly by no means truly I’ve truly not failed on accountability to be sincere with you

Mike Sarraille
By no means.

Glenn Cowan
Trigger I, effectively, come on. No, I watch her phrase too. I I’ve been fairly good at like taking duty for my actions.

Mike Sarraille
You’re speaking about self accountability.

Glenn Cowan
Good or dangerous. Okay. Good or dangerous. However there was occasions, many occasions the place I’ve checked my very own accountability and lacked integrity. What’s, what, what’s the definition of integrity like doing what’s proper. When nobody’s round one thing like that.

Mike Sarraille
Sure.

Glenn Cowan
Um, so I’ve not checked myself at occasions once I ought to have, um, however telling the reality, even the reality to your self, like wanting your self within the mirror and calling it as you see it, that’s highly effective and it’s, and it’s hurtful and it sucks or it might suck. Uh, however do it. It’s fucking highly effective. Sorry. Can we swear on this podcast? We did the one earlier than and I mentioned, fuck as soon as. And Mike acquired mad.

Mike Sarraille
It was a clear podcast as much as that time. After which apple slapped it with a, I neglect what the title is, is express. All as a result of Canadian got here on and simply SW anyway,

Glenn Cowan
We’ll go

Mike Sarraille
To 3rd. So first off the primary one was assume huge, go huge, assume

Glenn Cowan
Massive, go huge, go huge. Inform the reality

Mike Sarraille
In third,

Glenn Cowan
That is the catchall. Don’t be a Dick. Simply don’t be a dickhead. I feel for those who do any mixture of two and three, you’re good to go as a result of can look somebody within the eye and, and perhaps counter to Sammy Hagar who fuck. I’m not mendacity. I’m telling you precisely what I’m gonna do. I’m not mendacity. I’m not deceiving.

Mike Sarraille
However I’m, I’m telling you to your face,

Glenn Cowan
However I’m telling you to your face and I’m being open and direct and upfront about what’s taking place. And it provides you the chance then to no less than give a counter versus the place do you fuck somebody by going round, hitting them on the flank, being devious, regardless of the case could also be. If you happen to look somebody within the eye and also you inform them the reality, I by no means mentioned the message must be roses, but it surely must be sincere. And for those who’re sincere with individuals, you may’t go flawed. I don’t sorry.

Mike Sarraille
No, no, no. Don’t

Glenn Cowan
I feel

Mike Sarraille
You may go. That must be probably the most brutally sincere solutions so far is, and I like your analogy of particular operations planning. The state of affairs modified. I meant for this for all of us to maneuver ahead. Yep. However now state of affairs

Glenn Cowan
Modified. Yeah. And, and each time we do one thing and that is, I imply, my group went into Afghanistan and, and we had a few casualties, however they weren’t fight associated casualties. We by no means misplaced an operator, a supporter or a specialist on a goal. There’s one million horseshoe shoved up our ass as to why that didn’t occur. However we additionally deliberate with such precision and element that, that we had been in a position to, to, to, to do this. And a few of that was simply because we had been always reevaluating has the state of affairs modified and Hey, I, I assumed I used to be getting in on 20 guys. We’re getting in on 200 guys. Are we gonna abort? Fuck no conditions change. It’s modified the plan on the fly. Have everyone briefed up on it. You good? That is the reality. That is gonna suck. That is gonna harm, however we’re gonna do it. Go. Everybody respects it. Everybody. It’s very exhausting to disrespect the reality. You don’t have to love it, but it surely’s very exhausting to disrespect the reality. That’s and this has taken me a number of scars to study that

Mike Sarraille
Time. Time is the best method, uh, of all of us, the choice making course of between once I was 20. Yeah. And now’s so vastly totally different. I’m not the identical individual. I used to be six months in the past. No, three months in the past. No, go two months in the past, one month in the past, issues modified. Properly, Glen did, um,

Glenn Cowan
This has been nice.

Mike Sarraille
It’s been, it’s been enjoyable.

Glenn Cowan
That is like, that is like driving to brunch this morning. That is the conversations. Yeah. Prefer it’s fairly enjoyable.

Mike Sarraille
And, and I disagree with you on so much. Our, our conversations get intense <chortle> um, however no, I’ve all the time appreciated you as a businessman one since you’ve truly completely crushed it with, with the protection fund. One 9, we’re getting in Canada,

Glenn Cowan
We’re getting there.

Mike Sarraille
I imply, you’ve pulled in some gamers, dude.

Glenn Cowan
I’ve some nice companions. I’ve some unbelievable capital companions. Uh, we’ve made some investments in some corporations, each Canadian and American which are crushing it. I imply, we simply did a, certainly one of our corporations, a salt lake metropolis firm. I used to be truly speaking to you about what they’ve been in a position to uncover with probably the most highly effective algorithm that’s going to be one of many extra highly effective nationwide safety instruments going ahead. Uh, as we counter a Russia, uh, a rising China and Russia, uh, they simply, you already know, we simply did a 5 X return on our funding. They only closed a forty five million financing and they’re a rocket ship. Uh, and we’re simply completely happy to be alongside for the journey with a few of, a few of the USS, most subtle traders. And I’ll simply, I imply, learn the press launch. It’s all open supply, however I’m simply, I take a look at myself within the mirror and, and, and I discover myself being invited into these offers. And I’m like, you do, you do know like I’m the redheaded stepchild from Canada. Proper. And so they’re like, yep. That’s why we wish you. Let’s go. I’m like, all proper, let’s fucking go

Mike Sarraille
Properly to, to seal a quote from a man, extremely respect Dave Cooper, um, which I do know, you already know, that title. Yep. Uh, see up, uh, seal grasp chief. I’ll go away you to that. He as soon as mentioned, it’s wonderful what we will do once we’re a staff Canada, us British Australian, New Zealand, France. That’s, that’s, it doesn’t matter.

Glenn Cowan
I’ll simply, I’ll simply plug. If you happen to gimme two minutes, uh, the enterprise capital trade that I’m concerned in, uh, I’m certainly one of one in Canada, I’m working with a few of the finest enterprise capitalists and traders within the us. Uh, and it’s a staff sport and our collective nationwide safety is a staff sport. And, um, the, the, the mannequin of an funding coming collectively replicates a CJ soda, which for listeners is a mixed joint, particular operations, taskforces enterprise capital and particular operations are, are an identical males by way of the way you deploy sources in excessive danger, excessive reward environments, it’s an identical. And, and I’m tremendous humble and grateful to be investing and partnering with some actually heavy hitters which are doing a little actually cool stuff and corporations which are simply blowing my thoughts. I imply, it’s only a bunch of actually good individuals considering shit up. After which they want a knuckle dragger like me to form of assist information them in, in areas that they don’t want. And it’s actually humbling. And I’m simply, I get up each morning, like on fireplace and obsessed with what we’re

Mike Sarraille
Constructing there. There’s a necessity. And I do know I, I thanks personally for what you’re doing in addition to these enterprise capitalist, however Glen Cowan people will drop all his data. And for all of you, thanks for becoming a member of the lads’s journal on a regular basis warrior podcast, we’ll be again.

 



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